you might want to do back ground checks online from now on..you can do this there are websites..

someone on this site made a list of scammers as a heads up for people. really stand up thing to do imo, just cant remember who it was.

5rd

I still wanna see the Sheets list

Never trust anyone with Yayo in their name.

<<So you guys allow your horses to share names?
Just to clarify?.....>>

No, Sooners played on Ostate's full tilt account without our permission.

If we stake someone, they are not allowed to play cash games at all, and no one else is allowed to use their account at all.

 

Originally Posted by 8BallDeluxe

<<So you guys allow your horses to share names?
Just to clarify?.....>>

No, Sooners played on Ostate's full tilt account without our permission.

If we stake someone, they are not allowed to play cash games at all, and no one else is allowed to use their account at all.

My bad...misunderstood.
GL with everything

P.s Isnt Sooners a high stakes reg? dont understand why they wouldnt pay back such small amounts. meh people suck I guess

I don't back anyone but thanks for the list. Wish all backers did this but I understand the reasons not too. Anything to help clean up the game is good in my book.

The return of Sleezy T.... 

I think if you get fired from being backed you should take it like a man, steal the change that you need to send back to your former backers and grind .02/.04 limit until you eventually build and become a millionaire. 

Then when you are famous send the .23 cents or so that you kept, and send an e-mail that says, "Keep the change you filthy animal..."

 

Originally Posted by WiCane

I don't back anyone but thanks for the list. Wish all backers did this but I understand the reasons not too. Anything to help clean up the game is good in my book.

 

Originally Posted by tmac2424

like what?

enlighten me

Yes, please enlighten us.

 

Originally Posted by BobbyPossum

 

Originally Posted by motismIV

and you should stop being a dick in every thread you post in ffs, can the guy not ask a question?

PM each other and discuss how I've hurt your feelings

ROFL!

Say hi to chemist from me... haven't talked with him in a while. Hope his health problems are getting better.

 

Originally Posted by mhoddi

Wait, so Sooners got 3rd in the FTP 750K a month ago for 90K, owed you basically 6K and only sent 1500?

mmmmmmmmmmk

Pretty sure he is backed by someone, thought I read an OT sweat thread at the time saying he needed 2nd to get out of makeup which was in the neighborhood of 90 (and coincidentally he chopped for around 90k or w/e)

Not trying to make allegations, but I'm fairly certain I read something like this you can probably search for it.

Mahowny777 stole $300-400 from me as well.

Came back months later on AIM, telling me he was sorry, he was gonna pay me back, etc...then has the nerve to ask me to trade $ on various sites with him...obv turned him down.

 

Originally Posted by LayTheChalk

How do you justify backing someone? especially if you most likely never met them?

I have played for Todd and Jeremy since the middle of August of 09. I can say with 100% confidence that nothing the least bit shady goes on with the way they run their business. I have never met either of them in person and actually never even spoken to them on the phone. But it isn't as if they just back anyone who asks. I don't know their exact process but I can say this isn't some fly-by-night operation and they do their homework. They check references and do just about everything you can when considering hiring someone they haven't met. Just the nature of the business dealing with online poker. What are they supposed to do? Fly me in for an interview?

Obv hiring people sight unseen isn't gonna have a 100% success rate, but no other method does either. People seek backing for many different reasons. My reason was because my wife asked me to look for a backer for the most part, she just feels more comfortable that way. But it also allows me to play higher and much more comfortably then I could otherwise. Unfortunately, I would think that most seek backing because they are broke, or close to it. So, very often you are gonna be dealing with a player who is in financial hardship.

They obv back players because they believe they will make $ long-term by making good decisions when hiring players. Lowlife pieces of shit like the ones mentioned in the OP obv significantly cut into their profit margin. It takes a tremendous leap of faith to send someone you've never met a significant amount of $. I'm certain that they take every precaution they can, but some people are just scum.

The rules are pretty fucking simple. You can't play cash games. I keep my own $ on UB for when I feel like playing cash and play tournies with theirs on AP. And there are other sites out there if you wanna play cash, so the no cash game rule should never be an issue. There are a few other rules, but the biggest one is to not be a scumbag and steal their fucking money! Also, to answer a question from earlier ITT, I have never been asked for my account passwords. Nobody knows my passwords except me.

People really amaze me with how low they will sink sometimes. These guys started this company from nothing with their own $, then they hire you and give you an awesome opportunity to play a fucking game from your home with basically unlimited earning potential at no financial risk to you at all. (They also give their players a better deal than most of the other backing outfits from what I hear.) And you screw them over for an amount of $ that you could make in a few hours? Fucking pathetic. Thieves like these guys give the backing industry and the poker community as a whole a bad reputation.

Also, I don't know any of the people on that list personally, but the name at #1 doesn't surprise me at all. Usually seemed like a no-good Dbag the few times I've played with him. My favorite part is where he says in the email that his friends are telling him to take the money and run and he was gonna do that. But then changed his mind and is gonna pay it back. Wow, what a kind gesture. You are the company you keep obv. Scum attracts scum.

Not to make light of any of this, but MTT's batting avg. on not hiring thieving dirtballs is probably better than most backers out there imo. This is a good thing for Todd and Jeremy but a pretty sad thing for the game. Not trying to come off all holier-than-thou here but these people just really piss me off. Can't imagtine how mad I'd be if it was my $. Hopefully you'll never have to make another list like this one Todd. As far as why other backers don't put this info out there, I have no idea. Done ranting, sorry so long.

 

Originally Posted by rocksolid124

Mahowny777 stole $300-400 from me as well.

Came back months later on AIM, telling me he was sorry, he was gonna pay me back, etc...then has the nerve to ask me to trade $ on various sites with him...obv turned him down.

Why not say yeah sure we can swap money on sites, have him send first and don't send...Bam you got some money back. There are ways to beat scum.

As far as OP...the situation sucks, but hey you backers back some of the dirtiest players on earth. Theft will never end in the backing world. Thanks for the list tho.