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FT bubble Nightly 30k... Do I fold here?

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  1. blazinchron blazinchron is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2012 (1/29/2012 8:17pm)

    FInal table bubble In the nightly 30k.... Guy has been fairly tight the whole time... I guess I should fold here? Not sure what I do...

    pokerstars Hand #74662541817: Tournament #557011086, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (2500/5000) - 2012/01/29 2:39:55 ET
    Table '557011086 29' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 3: blazinchron (62268 in chips)
    Seat 5: aces_up4108 (90840 in chips)
    Seat 6: Maestro Shao (180260 in chips)
    Seat 8: crazy_jun (119250 in chips)
    Seat 9: barog88 (109567 in chips)
    blazinchron: posts the ante 500
    aces_up4108: posts the ante 500
    Maestro Shao: posts the ante 500
    crazy_jun: posts the ante 500
    barog88: posts the ante 500
    barog88: posts small blind 2500
    blazinchron: posts big blind 5000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to blazinchron [8h 8c]
    aces_up4108: folds
    Maestro Shao: folds
    blazinchron said, "all in"
    crazy_jun: raises 113750 to 118750 and is all-in
    barog88: folds
    blazinchron: calls 56768 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (56982) returned to crazy_jun
    *** FLOP *** [4d Ah 9d]
    *** TURN *** [4d Ah 9d] [3c]
    *** RIVER *** [4d Ah 9d 3c] [Kd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    blazinchron: shows [8h 8c] (a pair of Eights)
    crazy_jun: shows [Td Ts] (a pair of Tens)
    crazy_jun collected 128536 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 128536 | Rake 0
    Board [4d Ah 9d 3c Kd]
    Seat 3: blazinchron (big blind) showed [8h 8c] and lost with a pair of Eights
    Seat 5: aces_up4108 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Maestro Shao folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: crazy_jun (button) showed [Td Ts] and won (128536) with a pair of Tens
    Seat 9: barog88 (small blind) folded before Flop
  2. PeaceGotAces PeaceGotAces is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2012 (1/29/2012 8:59pm) in reply to blazinchron

    easy call. he could have any smaller pair and random broadway hands. he should be R/C TT, either way i never fold here
  3. mini bomberr mini bomberr is offline calls for hoodie equity

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    Jan 29th, 2012 (1/29/2012 9:45pm) in reply to PeaceGotAces

    You're usually flipping or crushing imo, just got ul.
  4. pokerscrub1 pokerscrub1 is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2012 (1/29/2012 10:26pm) in reply to mini bomberr

    I think he ships it with enough smaller pairs and AK AQ AJ here enough, and he doesn't ship w/ like AA,KK or QQ here very often, so it's a call. I think its close enough that folding can't be the worst thing ever, but i would personally never fold here.
     
  5. Sagacious Man Sagacious Man is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2012 (1/29/2012 11:03pm) in reply to pokerscrub1

    He is shipping 22bbs, so his range could be tighter than small pairs especially on FT bubble, depending on the player. He might R/C JJ+ AK+ and open ship everything else. Smaller pairs like 77 or less he might even Raise/fold. Either way I call this one off, I think you ran into the top of his range.
  6. brkwng3 brkwng3 is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 7:05am) in reply to Sagacious Man

    Lean towards a call especially since you're five handed. If he's on button even your tight players here could be opening wide. Many of these situations you will have the best hand.
  7. blazinchron blazinchron is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 9:54pm) in reply to BLUEberLEEZ

    Yeah I was thinking initially Its an instacall everytime.. But after reflecting on it for a while I think I could of managed a fold. He was playing very tight the whole time and I didnt think he would shove on the sb who had him covered with anything less than ak. looking back on it I should of realized I was probably a flip at best.. If i have like 5 more bb I can probbably fold pretty easily.. I donno Im thinking now It was just bad play on my part. I should of better known better
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  8. norv norv is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 3:20am) in reply to blazinchron

    im assuming you said allin for a reason? either way it's a gut feel, u have plenty of chips to wait another orbit or 2 if the FT was your goal, someone bound to bust in 2-3 orbits, then you can start your climb up the ladder to win! :-)

    i might add that i am a conspiracy theorist and i don't like going allin pre on either the money bubble or the ft bubble, call me superstitious if you like but i so often see the short stack get nailed even with the best hand most of the time........
  9. blazinchron blazinchron is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 7:39am) in reply to norv

    lol the guy was taking forever, i just wanted him to do something, just as i said all in he jammed it, basically simultaneously..... Next time if im in that spot with that type of player im just going to fold.
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  10. norv norv is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 7:53am) in reply to blazinchron

    Don't say never, as about 50% of the time it is actually a bluff and they are just bullying the short stack, if his read on you is tag, then it's a good play by him - irrespective of the sb in the way, that's why mixing it up is good fun and keeps people guessing whether you will call/fold or shove back it's funny but online you can get quite good reads from the timing and your gut, I know some people just play the board but the 6th sense does come into it i reckon
  11. BenFaz BenFaz is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 3:22pm) in reply to norv

    had a similar situation itm in the big 55, guy open jams around 20 bbs and i snapped with 88 i think were ahead to much to fold ul
     
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