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FT Merge $11 $750 gtd super turbo - fold or shove?

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  1. DiamondDixi DiamondDixi is online now

    Rome, GA
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    Feb 4th, 2012 (2/4/2012 8:37am)

    Table was reasonably tight and I hadn't seen anyone make any super wide calls, other than that no real reads. With ICM and two at 6 and 7 bb just not sure about this one. Chip EV it's fine I'm pretty sure but $EV it seems close to slightly bad.


    Merge - $0+$0.00|<> NL - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    CO: 114,525.00
    BTN: 42,027.00
    SB: 79,343.00
    BB: 42,637.00
    Hero (UTG): 75,468.00

    CO posts ante 600.00, BTN posts ante 600.00, SB posts ante 600.00, BB posts ante 600.00, Hero posts ante 600.00, SB posts SB 3,000.00, BB posts BB 6,000.00

    Pre Flop: (pot: 12000.00) Hero has 4:club: 4:diamond:

    Hero raises to 74,868.00 and is all-in, fold, fold, SB raises to 78,743.00 and is all-in, fold
    Edited By: DiamondDixi Feb 4th, 2012 at 08:38 AM
  2. ManchVegasPwn ManchVegasPwn is offline

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    Feb 4th, 2012 (2/4/2012 8:54am) in reply to DiamondDixi

    I shove here, It's obv a lot better to be shoving cutoff tho instead of HJ, cuz with ur stack size and two stacks <10bb it's kind of marginal. The odds of running into a pair 55+ is somethin like 17% when there are 4 players to act behind you. I'm not sure the exact % but I think thats close to correct. By taking down the 12k in the pot, you increase your stack by roughly that same %.

    This is assuming your opponents are calling perfectly (which in most cases, they won't be) and aren't exploitable. When you run into AQ or AK, you gotta win a flip, but its worth risking it imo when if u double up you get a pretty good CL and presumably a decent skill edge over your opponents more often than not. Folding isn't terrible here tho, on some tables where it's easy to limp/stab or jam over limpers it might be better to fold cuz u can pick up some added equity in future +EV spots that are simply better, but in a vacuum i think this is a shove.
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  3. tarzan4 tarzan4 is offline

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    Feb 4th, 2012 (2/4/2012 9:04am) in reply to ManchVegasPwn

    I def shove here being 5 handed and in a super turbo mtt. If they all fold you'll pick up 20% of your stack as well.
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