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  1. sandler1860 sandler1860 is offline

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    Feb 19th, 2011 (2/19/2011 10:53pm)

    Looks like this Monday (Feb 21), the weekly $1k on FTP is going to be an MET with a 1 million guarantee. It will allow for 4 entries, just like the FTOPS 1k this past Monday. The week after though (Feb 28) it goes back to the normal 300k guarantee, no MET. I never play this tourney as I dont play Monday nights, but I wonder if this will be an every other week thing or like a once a month thing? All I know is these METs in big buyin tournies are getting pretty expensive in some spots.
     
  2. pokerproplaya08 pokerproplaya08 is offline

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    Feb 20th, 2011 (2/20/2011 12:36am) in reply to sandler1860

    good question, I'll never be playing this MTT, but curious to know if they'd do it for other mtt's too besides just 1k (like the 750k)
  3. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Feb 20th, 2011 (2/20/2011 12:57am) in reply to pokerproplaya08

    it... is.... beginning.....
     
  4. Believer82 Believer82 is offline

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    Feb 20th, 2011 (2/20/2011 1:00am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    I'm sure it will be twice a month from now on

    I got a survey on it where they where asking people to vote.
    Edited By: Believer82 Feb 20th, 2011 at 01:01 AM
     
  5. ApesAreFun ApesAreFun is offline Moderator/Euro Donk

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    Feb 20th, 2011 (2/20/2011 1:06am) in reply to Deoxyribo

     
    Originally Posted by Deoxyribo View Post

    it... is.... beginning.....

    Yup.
    You cant deny METs been a huuuuuuuge success. Its probably FTPs greatest idea ever $-wise for them.
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  6. winwin07 winwin07 is offline

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    Feb 20th, 2011 (2/20/2011 1:29am) in reply to ApesAreFun

    Notice the first 4 registrants......
     
  7. ZeeDustin ZeeDustin is offline

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    Feb 20th, 2011 (2/20/2011 3:09am) in reply to sandler1860

    They want traffic on a holiday...well somewhat a holiday.
  8. The Lab Rat The Lab Rat is offline

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    Feb 20th, 2011 (2/20/2011 3:13am) in reply to ZeeDustin

    Pretty sick new addition. I think if they had it once a month it would be great
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  9. the_dean22 the_dean22 is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 4:57pm) in reply to sandler1860

    I see tonight's 1k is a MET w/ million guarantee...anyone know if is this gonna be a permanent change or once a month deal? I notice the following week is back to normal tho...curious change, esp the day after FTOPS ends
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  10. iPlayTourneys iPlayTourneys is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 5:02pm) in reply to the_dean22

    Pretty sick to switch it up. Would be very cool to make it 6m/full ring as well...
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  11. scarface_79 scarface_79 is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 8:00pm) in reply to iPlayTourneys

    lol, just when i start playing mtts again, and was motivated to play tonight and start a decent schedule, they go and fk it up. this was already a tough enough tourney, now...... no thanks. i have an ego like other players, but this just seems really dumb
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  12. decamps decamps is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 8:47pm) in reply to scarface_79

    MET is good but not daily or weekly make it a once a month thing will get much more interest in my opinion
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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 9:13pm) in reply to scarface_79

     
    Originally Posted by scarface_79 View Post

    lol, just when i start playing mtts again, and was motivated to play tonight and start a decent schedule, they go and fk it up. this was already a tough enough tourney, now...... no thanks. i have an ego like other players, but this just seems really dumb

    agree.
  14. the real roks the real roks is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 9:26pm) in reply to swd805

    yyeah its def awful for online mtts and really dumb if they do it every week. but I am gonna win it tonight
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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 9:32pm) in reply to the real roks

    i understand it makes it tougher but id rather make it met, makes it more exciting to try and win 250k over 70k..(probably bad logic)

    im gonna win it!

    i was 100% taking off today and tonight but once i saw this i had to play!!
    Edited By: paulgees81 Feb 21st, 2011 at 09:33 PM
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  16. theczar19 theczar19 is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 10:08pm) in reply to paulgees81

     
    Originally Posted by paulgees81 View Post

    i understand it makes it tougher but id rather make it met, makes it more exciting to try and win 250k over 70k..(probably bad logic)

    im gonna win it!

    i was 100% taking off today and tonight but once i saw this i had to play!!

    ur TIMBEYS!!!!!!!
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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 10:11pm) in reply to scarface_79

     
    Originally Posted by scarface_79 View Post

    lol, just when i start playing mtts again, and was motivated to play tonight and start a decent schedule, they go and fk it up. this was already a tough enough tourney, now...... no thanks. i have an ego like other players, but this just seems really dumb

    exactly this.
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  18. moorman1 moorman1 is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 10:17pm) in reply to Scarypooper

    I can't breathr if they make this a MET tourney every other week,

    FTP I Beg you to make this just once a month....... ty Howard
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  19. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 10:26pm) in reply to moorman1

    Online poker economy: 2003-2011
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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 10:36pm) in reply to paulgees81

     
    Originally Posted by paulgees81 View Post

    i understand it makes it tougher but id rather make it met, makes it more exciting to try and win 250k over 70k..(probably bad logic)

    im gonna win it!

    i was 100% taking off today and tonight but once i saw this i had to play!!

    more $ = more exciting good logic imo
     
  21. Defndrofangels Defndrofangels is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 10:39pm) in reply to papamat25

    Hi, a micro rat here chiming in. I love these on the micro <24+2 mtts. They bring more bad players and make prize pools really juicy. I also can't play a lot of different mtts so playing the same mtt 4 times in one setting can really help me put some decent volume in. However for the High stakes where there's a bunch of regs there really shouldn't be any gimmicks. Just putting in my 2 cents.
  22. FenwayKing FenwayKing is offline The Well: FenwayKing

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 10:44pm) in reply to Defndrofangels

    while this definitely rapes for all of us in the short-term with the absurd first-place prizes and potentially getting rich, you really have to question how good this is in the long run for online poker
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  23. pokerjamers pokerjamers is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 11:42pm) in reply to moorman1

     
    Originally Posted by moorman1 View Post

    I can't breathr if they make this a MET tourney every other week,

    FTP I Beg you to make this just once a month....... ty Howard


    ahahahahahahahahaha
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  24. unta unta is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2011 (2/21/2011 11:53pm) in reply to FenwayKing

     
    Originally Posted by FenwayKing View Post

    while this definitely rapes for all of us in the short-term with the absurd first-place prizes and potentially getting rich, you really have to question how good this is in the long run for online poker


    degens gonna degen, 16k entrants in a 640 poker economy is fine
     
  25. stpauli111 stpauli111 is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2011 (2/22/2011 12:04am) in reply to unta

    dear god. cut this shit out seriously....
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  26. wmmcl wmmcl is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2011 (2/22/2011 2:37am) in reply to stpauli111

    yea this is without a question good in the short term, but bad in the long for the online professional. that said, if it does happen, only makes game selection more impt than ever.
    Edited By: wmmcl Feb 22nd, 2011 at 02:38 AM
     
  27. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2011 (2/22/2011 2:44am) in reply to unta

     
    Originally Posted by paulgees81 View Post

    i understand it makes it tougher but id rather make it met, makes it more exciting to try and win 250k over 70k..(probably bad logic)

    im gonna win it!

    i was 100% taking off today and tonight but once i saw this i had to play!!

    kinda bad logic.
    yea, its good for a chance to win 250k, but ur overall ROI will be lower so in 20 years youll prolly have made less if u played it weekly, but meh

     
    Originally Posted by downbylaw11 View Post

    Online poker economy: 2003-2011

    RIP

     
    Originally Posted by FenwayKing View Post

    while this definitely rapes for all of us in the short-term with the absurd first-place prizes and potentially getting rich, you really have to question how good this is in the long run for online poker

    agree.

     
    Originally Posted by unta View Post

    degens gonna degen, 16k entrants in a 640 poker economy is fine

    lol. a bunch of donks degenned one tourny, think if they had FTOPS ME 6 entries every week the donks would be rich enough to play it every week?
     
  28. CalBandGreat CalBandGreat is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2011 (2/22/2011 3:42am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    This is short term thinking on FTP's part as this is clearly bad for the long term poker economy. It only helps the players with the highest ROI's and obv those are the players that are least likely to go busto. There is a reason why the top 10 guys are excited about this and nobody else is. I would have to admit that im not +EV in the Monday $1K but I play it sometimes because I don't play for a living andI mostly play for fun. There are some satelite players in the field and I don't think that I'm giving up that much, so I play it when I have time, but I doubt I will ever play the Monday Million as I would be giving up too much. If I'm say -10% ROI in a typical Monday $1K, I'm probably -30 % ROI in the Monday Million, I don't mind paying a little in EV to have some fun but that is way too much. Most of the people who are -EV in Monday Million, probably don't realize it, but I'm sure they will get discouraged when they are at a table with gboro and pokerjamers and then they get moved to a table with pokerjamers and gboro.
    With that said, I understand why Full Tilt is doing this because who knows where online poker is going to be in a few years. The owners took a huge risk by staying in the US market, so I don't blame them for cashing in while they can. If they think it will be tough to hold a reasonable share of the market when online poker is legalized, then it makes sense to just maximize short term profits. Once it is legalized I expect a lot of new sites to enter the market. Right now Full Tilt is a very strong #2 in the market and it is pretty unsure whether or not this will still be the case in 3 years. MET's have obv been incredible for short term profits, so I don't blame them, I just don't like where this is going. It does make for fun railing and I do like playing the $100 turbo MET on Sunday, so I guess I should just sit back and enjoy it for now. Good luck to everyone playing the Monday Million tonight.
     
  29. slow_rollin78 slow_rollin78 is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2011 (2/22/2011 8:31am) in reply to CalBandGreat

    Weeeeeeeee to just busting

    Sucks.

    big time.
     
  30. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2011 (2/22/2011 8:43am) in reply to slow_rollin78

    Moorman busto? only entered 2 times
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