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Full Tilt $26 18k - Whats your play with Flush and gutter draw on flop

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  1. heineken23 heineken23 is offline

    Adelaide
    Australia

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    Feb 10th, 2010 (2/10/2010 2:07am)

    Ok, so i actually forgot that i was the pre flop raiser and so my question is what's your line now that villains bet half pot? raise? shove?

    Villains stats are 23/21/inf/35

    Full Tilt Poker Game #18337593134: $18,000 Guarantee (138585309), Table 47 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:34:45 ET - 2010/02/10
    Seat 1: J-Wheezy (7,103)
    Seat 2: Guerrero14 (2,637)
    Seat 3: Demurrr (6,289)
    Seat 4: Heineken23 (3,715)
    Seat 5: TUTT_TUTT (4,683), is sitting out
    Seat 6: Quelf (5,979)
    Seat 7: Zorro61 (4,880)
    Seat 8: Bollen_Allin (7,082)
    Seat 9: divana5444 (2,826)
    Guerrero14 posts the small blind of 60
    Demurrr posts the big blind of 120
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Heineken23 [Qc Ah]
    Heineken23 raises to 360
    TUTT_TUTT folds
    Quelf has 15 seconds left to act
    Quelf folds
    Zorro61 folds
    Bollen_Allin folds
    divana5444 folds
    J-Wheezy calls 360
    Guerrero14 folds
    Demurrr folds
    *** FLOP *** [Kh 2h Jh]
    Heineken23 checks
    J-Wheezy bets 480
    Heineken23 has 15 seconds left to act
    Heineken23 ???
  2. jaydeez40oz jaydeez40oz is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2010 (2/10/2010 2:39am) in reply to heineken23

    fold?
  3. GSUDrunk GSUDrunk is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2010 (2/10/2010 3:14am) in reply to heineken23

    Shove it in or raise with the intention of getting it in if he shoves.

    I tend to be too err on the side of aggression.
  4. lemongello lemongello is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2010 (2/10/2010 8:29am) in reply to heineken23

    after his flop bet the pot is 1380 which reps. 41% of your stack of 3355 so taking the pot down right now would be nice.. as for how you stand...

    im giviing him a range of JJ-66,22,AJs-ATs,suited connectors 89-KQ, one gap suited connectors T8-KJ, KTs, and AJo... AA,KK,QQ, and AK reraise pre so doubt he has one of those... your check on the flop signals weakness so he can raise on a scary board with all of these... against this range you are 59% to 41%

    if you flat and a brick comes off like 3c, you then become underdog so go ahead and shove the flop..

    GL
  5. Steve Murkle Steve Murkle is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2010 (2/10/2010 9:01am) in reply to lemongello

    how about raise commit?, it looks stronger, i.e. make it 1950
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  6. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2010 (2/10/2010 1:52pm) in reply to heineken23

    Ship it, just easy.

    my 2 cents
  7. lemongello lemongello is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2010 (2/10/2010 5:52pm) in reply to Steve Murkle

    why you raise:
    1) to build a pot with the best hand
    2) to make opponents fold better hands

    right here we may not have the best hand but rather a good shot at making the best hand... i find it hard to believe that we are going to drive out any hand better than ours on this board... so if we are going to get committed, which is a must in this hand, then go ahead and get maximum value for the hand.. if he's going to call 1950 hes going to call All IN here..

    GL
  8. heineken23 heineken23 is offline

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    Feb 12th, 2010 (2/12/2010 2:28am) in reply to lemongello

    Thanks for the replies. I shoved and was snapped by KJ. Binked a 10 on the river thankfully
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