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  1. pimplyteen pimplyteen is offline

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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 7:57pm)

    Why dont they just cut the gimmicks and have a side branded Full Tilt Casino with table games and all kinds of gambling games?

    This way they can be open and honest about trying to generate a lot more money for Full Tilt, then thinly vailing these new poker formats which are complete crap and at the core MAINLY benefit Full Tilt Poker...

    Or am I wrong? Are these new poker games really in the good spirit of poker in the long run? I can't see how thats true....
     
  2. wackyJaxon wackyJaxon is offline Admin X

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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:07pm) in reply to pimplyteen

    If they do this, they can most likely forget about re-entering the US Market if there is ever regulation..
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  3. Jwilkinson Jwilkinson is offline

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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:16pm) in reply to wackyJaxon

    lets hope they dont do this, stupid ass thread guy, rush poker is straight as fuck, no clue what u are getting at.
    Edited By: Jwilkinson Jan 12th, 2011 at 08:17 PM
    Reason: f u op
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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:18pm) in reply to Jwilkinson

    The OP really doesn't want a casino, he want FT to leave poker the FK alone, no more new games and formats and such. I suppose we need to grow, but WTF sometimes.
     
  5. IamJacksFlip IamJacksFlip is offline

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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:20pm) in reply to Jwilkinson

    If you don't like playing a game, then don't play that game. Let the rest of us have the same choice. Thanks.

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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:24pm) in reply to IamJacksFlip

     
    Originally Posted by IamJacksFlip View Post

    If you don't like playing a game, then don't play that game. Let the rest of us have the same choice. Thanks.

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    pretty much this

    no one is forcing anyone to play the new games. if they were only beneficial to FTP and bad for the players no one would play them. obviously some people like it and thats fine.

    FTP is a business, theres nothing wrong with them putting things out there that will make them money if people are willing to pay for it.
     
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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:32pm) in reply to wackyJaxon

     
    Originally Posted by wackyJaxon View Post

    If they do this, they can most likely forget about re-entering the US Market if there is ever regulation..

    gotcha...so as a BUSINESS, they have to stick to "poker" or else they jeopardize future markets, etc....

    Doesn't it seem so obvious how they decided to push rake further and create a casino type atmosphere...these new formats are not poker, what would a legend like Doyle say about Rush Poker? or Multiple Entry Tournaments?...they are morphing "poker" into all these different formats just to attract new players and push rake...its a business decision plain and simple has nothing to do with growing poker or giving it a good name, etc....its about more rake, PERIOD.
     
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  8. wackyJaxon wackyJaxon is offline Admin X

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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:38pm) in reply to pimplyteen

    Agreed - it is a business and they will do what they can to maximize the potential.. Also some of the gimics attract the fish. For example, I love rush poker cash games. I am not sure the Multi-entry tournaments will be a success or not for them, hopefully if people do not like they don't give into temptation and play. The less people that play them, the less likely they are to offer them in substitute of tournaments you do like. It is a business and FTP's marketing people are amongst the best despite the initial unpopularity of the multi-entry tournaments. Rush was also unpopular to start, and many people including myself warmed up to it. Matrix sngs was not popular to start, and they don't push promos on it since they see its not so popular since few people register to play.

    Regarding your comment about pushing promos to attract new players and rake, I would think we would want new players to be attracted to a site as it brings in fresh blood to win money off of. I do not see how multi-entry tournaments will bring in more new players, but just responding to that part of the comment. I do agree its done to generate more rake and try to bring in a market niche that isn't there on other sites.
    Edited By: wackyJaxon Jan 12th, 2011 at 08:38 PM
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  9. pimplyteen pimplyteen is offline

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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:39pm) in reply to okse54

     
    Originally Posted by okse54 View Post

    if they were only beneficial to FTP and bad for the players no one would play them. obviously some people like it and thats fine.

    Not so sure about this statement....
     
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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:46pm) in reply to pimplyteen

    it's called getting in touch with the correct age, the mobile rush idea is pretty genius. Get with the times man, things change, roll with it or get left behind.
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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:48pm) in reply to pimplyteen

    Does Full Tilt poker have a moral obligation to uphold the integrity of the game?
     
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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 8:54pm) in reply to pimplyteen

    Most of these gimmicks appear to be training the casual player to become a multi tabling button pushing shove tard.
    Matrix - this gimmick got the casual player 4 tabling overnight.
    Rush - this gimmick trains the monkey to push the buttons faster
    Rewards system redone... (after you train your monkeys to do more you can reward less)
    Super Turbos - this gimmick rewards the button pushing monkey faster
    MEMTTs - this gimmick...?
    1. Patented games. Regulation, blackout etc. would be unaffected if they license games
    2. OBV HTTYM How to Train Your Monkey
    3. Player pool loss, multiplier games fill loss.
    4. Fish temporally believe again
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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 9:04pm) in reply to just-jOHnny

     
    Originally Posted by just-jOHnny View Post

    1. Patented games. Regulation, blackout etc. would be unaffected if they license games
    2. OBV HTTYM How to Train Your Monkey
    3. Player pool loss, multiplier games fill loss.
    4. Fish temporally believe again

    They believe in a time based sense?
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    Jan 12th, 2011 (1/12/2011 9:24pm) in reply to IamJacksFlip

    I don't agree with the OP...
    They have added Draw, Matrix, On Demand, etc...
    Numerous changes all of the time to cater to the poker world.
    You as the rest of us has the simple ability to chose what you wish to play!
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    Jan 13th, 2011 (1/13/2011 6:02pm) in reply to pimplyteen

    this is why I think stars will always be better they obv have real tourneys while fulltilt is turning all their tourneys into crapshoots and carnival rides
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    Jan 13th, 2011 (1/13/2011 6:45pm) in reply to McBain74

     
    Originally Posted by McBain74 View Post

    Does Full Tilt poker have a moral obligation to uphold the integrity of the game?


    I think they should yes...dont forget they are founded by people who made the majority of their wealth from POKER so, yah, you would think this would be something they would be interested in....
     
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    Jan 13th, 2011 (1/13/2011 6:58pm) in reply to pimplyteen

    I thought this thread was suggesting that full tilt poker was going to have casino games like ub I guess I was wrong...
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    Jan 13th, 2011 (1/13/2011 7:05pm) in reply to flipxpelon562

     
    Originally Posted by flipxpelon562 View Post

    I thought this thread was suggesting that full tilt poker was going to have casino games like ub I guess I was wrong...

    I fully believe they would do this, but as Jaxon pointed out, this will drastically hurt their chances of re-entering the US Market when/if that happens...

    Maybe I over-reacted on these changes but you have to admit, these changes are in stark contrast to the "Home Games" offering that Poker stars just came out with.

    In my opinion, one site cares (at least partially) about the integrity of the game, etc. and the other site cares mostly about rake and getting players to push their comfort zone into more tables, faster, faster, faster....

    I'll say it again too, I'd buy stock in Full Tilt if I could, but its about more than money, its about making poker seems gimmicky and casino game like to the casual player...when in fact its a pretty awesome game at its core with no gimmicks....
     
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