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Getting maximum value out of a hand??

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  1. Ace_this Ace_this is offline

    Smyrna, GA
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    Sep 19th, 2008 (9/19/2008 3:03pm)

    pokerstars Game #20531320525: Tournament #107931364, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/09/19 14:50:00 ET
    Table '107931364 355' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Yalangingras (4775 in chips)
    Seat 2: Fyodabrasil (3780 in chips)
    Seat 3: Encira (2110 in chips)
    Seat 4: PokerAid (11420 in chips)
    Seat 5: BEMOL (6175 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 6: huney79 (3630 in chips)
    Seat 7: MaristAce (7910 in chips)
    Seat 8: ace_this (7745 in chips)
    Seat 9: romsk1 (7495 in chips)
    Fyodabrasil: posts small blind 75
    Encira: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to ace_this [7d 7c]
    PokerAid: folds
    BEMOL: folds
    huney79: folds
    MaristAce: folds
    ace_this: raises 300 to 450
    romsk1: calls 450
    Yalangingras: folds
    Fyodabrasil: folds
    Encira: folds
    *** FLOP *** [7h 5h Js]
    ace_this: bets 450
    romsk1: raises 750 to 1200

    What would you do at this point?

    If I flat, I disguise my hand but then what do I do on the turn. I don't think checking to him on the turn is an option since it gives him chance for a free card, but I'm not sure he bites if I bet into him again.

    Here is the rest..

    ace_this: raises 1200 to 2400
    romsk1: folds
    Uncalled bet (1200) returned to ace_this
    ace_this collected 3525 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3525 | Rake 0
    Board [7h 5h Js]
    Seat 8: ace_this collected (3525)

    Just wondering how any of you would play it..

    thanks for you input...
  2. gguk2008 gguk2008 is offline

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    Sep 19th, 2008 (9/19/2008 4:33pm) in reply to Ace_this

    That's what I'd do, to be honest. Your line, I mean.

    What do you do if a scary heart comes?
  3. Ace_this Ace_this is offline

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    Sep 19th, 2008 (9/19/2008 4:55pm) in reply to gguk2008

    I agree to not let him draw cheaply to a flush, even though that's not what I was really worried about. My line just makes me look so strong that maybe AJ is even folding

    I was just upset that I lost him & wondered how I could get more value out of the hand.
    Thanks for your opinion.
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  4. gguk2008 gguk2008 is offline

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    Sep 19th, 2008 (9/19/2008 5:33pm) in reply to Ace_this

    You may well be right.

    Ok, so we flat-call the flop. Do we set alarm bells off here because we raised pre, c-bet AND flat-called a raise? What do you do if a non-heart hits? Check and let him take a stab? What do you do if a heart hits?

    Serious questions to get discussion going here.
  5. sct123 sct123 is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2008 (9/20/2008 8:59am) in reply to Ace_this

    Please never flat call the flop in this spot. That is not the kind of line you want to take with a set on such a cooridnated flop. Just shove the rest in
  6. RiskBenefiter RiskBenefiter is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2008 (9/20/2008 9:56am) in reply to Ace_this

    Don't ever be upset you took a pot down. You got him to reraise you on the flop and then dumped his hand. You won the hand. If you let him get more cards, it is going to be a heart ache when he goes runner runner. If he had the flush draw he calls you after he put in the raise so it was a good play with no worries to sweats and he did not have much anyway so you probally got max value at his play on the flop to steal it.
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