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    Originally Posted by resilient View Post

    You said that the play had been proven correct by math. Folding is obviously a bad alternative because of the added chips that will make raising or shoving +cEV. I was reading "correct" to be "optimal", and whether shoving or raising is optimal is up for debate.

    I meant correct as in the unexploitable shove > folding
    Not correct as in the unexploitable shove is definitely the optimal line
     
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    Originally Posted by ASPoker8 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by resilient View Post


    You said that the play had been proven correct by math. Folding is obviously a bad alternative because of the added chips that will make raising or shoving +cEV. I was reading "correct" to be "optimal", and whether shoving or raising is optimal is up for debate.

    I meant correct as in the unexploitable shove > folding
    Not correct as in the unexploitable shove is definitely the optimal line

    then why are you giving me shit??? i never once said fold.
    oh, thats right, you didnt read my posts, just wanted to chime in and talk down to someone because youre a big internet balla thug.
  3. Well there is no doubt that a weaker players calling ranges will be so tight that a shove is undoubtedly +EV, it is far and away not the optimal line. The shove versus an aggro/good/spewy player is the same +EV shove, but closer to, or THE optimal line given alternatives.
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