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Was this a good or a bad play? YOU decide! HELP!

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  1. jdro jdro is offline

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    Dec 14th, 2006 (12/14/2006 4:47am)

    posted in hand discussion, but couldn't get a response...sorry for the double post, but really looking for thoughts on this, thanks!!

    <blockquote>i figured by calling, i was giving myself better chances for more money (less likely that shortstack doubled up) plus pot odds when it got around to be were pretty friggin large, 4-1ish and no WAY i was a 4-1 dog...(right? or at worst, RIGHT at 4-1 so math was a wash lol)</blockquote> Here are comments I got from one, anonymous, very well respected P-5er...

    Well, against 2 hands you were more than likely worse than a 4-1 dog, and you were 18% here. Still...not sure this is a bad call, considering it helps to eliminate the other shorty, and if the pusher (bobb) wins...you still get 4th.... post this one in hand advice :)

    so thoughts? (not that it matters but went on to win the tourney....mainly concerned with opinions regarding the chip stacks and the play as it directly relates to this specific situation. I took awhile before calling. Thanks!!

    pokerstars Game #<span id="lw_1166060952_0">7409063088</span>: Tournament #37892335, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2006/12/12 - 06:12:33 (ET)
    Table '37892335 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 2: Bobb@Fab (10465 in chips)
    Seat 3: LucaPom (2074 in chips)
    Seat 4: jdro (3153 in chips)
    Seat 7: NOTOW (18908 in chips)
    Seat 8: Mr.Tonks (5900 in chips)
    Bobb@Fab: posts the ante 50
    LucaPom: posts the ante 50
    jdro: posts the ante 50
    NOTOW: posts the ante 50
    Mr.Tonks: posts the ante 50
    LucaPom: posts small blind 400
    jdro: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jdro [Kd 5c]
    NOTOW: folds
    Mr.Tonks: folds
    Bobb@Fab: raises 2400 to 3200
    LucaPom: calls 1624 and is all-in
    jdro: calls 2303 and is all-in
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 5d 9d]
    *** TURN *** [Tc 5d 9d] [8s]
    *** RIVER *** [Tc 5d 9d 8s] [Kc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    jdro: shows [Kd 5c] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
    Bobb@Fab: shows [Ac Jc] (high card Ace)
    jdro collected 2158 from side pot
    LucaPom: shows [6d 6s] (a pair of Sixes)
    jdro collected 6322 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 8480 Main pot 6322. Side pot 2158. | Rake 0
    Board [Tc 5d 9d 8s Kc]
    Seat 2: Bobb@Fab (button) showed [Ac Jc] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 3: LucaPom (small blind) showed [6d 6s] and lost with a pair of Sixes
    Seat 4: jdro (big blind) showed [Kd 5c] and won (8480) with two pair, Kings and Fives
    Seat 7: NOTOW folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Mr.Tonks folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. Staple Gun Staple Gun is offline

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    Dec 14th, 2006 (12/14/2006 4:56am) in reply to jdro

    Good.
  3. AfraidKnot AfraidKnot is offline

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    Dec 14th, 2006 (12/14/2006 5:17am) in reply to jdro

    i agree with u... first off... you were playing too win right? second Bobb@fab could have had anything considering he was on the button and raising two shortstacks... third... blinds were gigantic in relation to your stacks... forth... i would have put luca on any A/whatever hand thus probably giving u live cards... so i would and have done the same exact thing... somtimes it works and sometimes it doesn't... bravo... :)
  4. jdro jdro is offline

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    Dec 14th, 2006 (12/14/2006 5:33am) in reply to AfraidKnot

    thanks guys!!!
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  5. jdro jdro is offline

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    Dec 14th, 2006 (12/14/2006 5:34am) in reply to jdro

    and yes, ALWAYS play to win :), plus being shortstacked, felt that the move ALSO gave me a better shot at moving up the next $ spot.
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  6. SassyTexan SassyTexan is offline

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    Dec 14th, 2006 (12/14/2006 8:05am) in reply to jdro

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