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Good fold or just lucky?

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  1. mscheesecake mscheesecake is offline

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    Oct 27th, 2006 (10/27/2006 6:41pm)

    A co worker saw this hand and said I was being a "wimp" to fold. I think it's one of those were it's a fold even though it likely is the best before the flop. Anyway, just thought I'd get some other thoughts.

    pokerstars Game #6792436539: Tournament #34590569, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/10/27 - 18:27:08 (ET)
    Table '34590569 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: centx (2570 in chips)
    Seat 2: Finalexit666 (1700 in chips)
    Seat 3: aces19801 (175 in chips)
    Seat 4: TigerWoodz (1450 in chips)
    Seat 5: sunnyboy1 (1340 in chips)
    Seat 6: texas bob (1400 in chips)
    Seat 7: mscheesecake (1730 in chips)
    Seat 8: Equalizer001 (820 in chips)
    Seat 9: POBREZITO (2315 in chips)
    Finalexit666: posts small blind 15
    aces19801: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mscheesecake [Kc Kd]
    TigerWoodz: folds
    sunnyboy1: folds
    texas bob: folds
    mscheesecake: raises 70 to 100
    Equalizer001: raises 720 to 820 and is all-in
    POBREZITO: folds
    centx: calls 820
    Finalexit666: folds
    aces19801: calls 145 and is all-in
    mscheesecake: folds
    *** FLOP *** [2c 5s 3s]
    *** TURN *** [2c 5s 3s] [4s]
    *** RIVER *** [2c 5s 3s 4s] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Equalizer001: shows [8s Js] (a flush, Jack high)
    centx: shows [Th Ah] (a straight, Ace to Five)
    Equalizer001 collected 1290 from side pot
    aces19801: shows [Qh Tc] (a pair of Fives)
    Equalizer001 collected 640 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1930 Main pot 640. Side pot 1290. | Rake 0
    Board [2c 5s 3s 4s 5c]
    Seat 1: centx (button) showed [Th Ah] and lost with a straight, Ace to Five
    Seat 2: Finalexit666 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: aces19801 (big blind) showed [Qh Tc] and lost with a pair of Fives
    Seat 4: TigerWoodz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: sunnyboy1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: texas bob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: mscheesecake folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Equalizer001 showed [8s Js] and won (1930) with a flush, Jack high
    Seat 9: POBREZITO folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. sp227 sp227 is offline

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    Oct 27th, 2006 (10/27/2006 7:22pm) in reply to mscheesecake

    That is a very bad fold in that spot. You cannot go broke on the hand and just because one player called the raise cold does not mean he has AA. In this type of tournament, with this situation, I call/push allin every single time with KK. If someone has AA then so be it. The situation changes if the structure and stack sizes are different obviously. But bad fold here regardless.
  3. Cortz Cortz is offline

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    Oct 27th, 2006 (10/27/2006 9:19pm) in reply to mscheesecake

    uhm i got broke with KK almost everytime unless it gets raised re raised re raised re raised re raised etc
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