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good JJ fold?

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  1. subiime subiime is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2008 (4/7/2008 5:02pm)

    no reads on nice_verona (just moved to the table), and benoit01 is a huge donk from what I can tell. what's his range here?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #5942954116: $17,500 Guarantee (44584678), Table 30 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:58:07 ET - 2008/04/07
    Seat 1: Benoit01 (6,900)
    Seat 2: bowser125 (2,590)
    Seat 3: nice_verona (6,400)
    Seat 4: ZaggyStardust (10,425)
    Seat 5: PokerChick59 (2,980)
    Seat 6: CoastalPGM (4,950)
    Seat 7: scooship (2,710)
    Seat 8: ck0729 (2,585)
    Seat 9: subiime (7,565)
    bowser125 posts the small blind of 30
    nice_verona posts the big blind of 60
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to subiime [Jd Jh]
    ZaggyStardust folds
    PokerChick59 folds
    CoastalPGM folds
    scooship folds
    ck0729 calls 60
    subiime raises to 240
    Benoit01 calls 240
    bowser125 folds
    nice_verona calls 180
    ck0729 calls 180
    *** FLOP *** [7c 4s 8d]
    nice_verona checks
    ck0729 checks
    subiime bets 600
    Benoit01 calls 600
    nice_verona has 15 seconds left to act
    nice_verona raises to 3,390
    ck0729 folds
    subiime has 15 seconds left to act
    subiime has requested TIME
    subiime folds
    Benoit01 folds
    Uncalled bet of 2,790 returned to nice_verona
    nice_verona mucks
    nice_verona wins the pot (2,790)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2,790 | Rake 0
    Board: [7c 4s 8d]
    Seat 1: Benoit01 (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: bowser125 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: nice_verona (big blind) collected (2,790), mucked
    Seat 4: ZaggyStardust didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: PokerChick59 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: CoastalPGM didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: scooship didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: ck0729 folded on the Flop
    Seat 9: subiime folded on the Flop
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  2. Xin Xin is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2008 (4/7/2008 5:06pm) in reply to subiime

    With no reads...it's tough. I think I'd fold too. It's still early in the tournament and you can find a better spot.
  3. kingme620 kingme620 is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2008 (4/8/2008 7:34pm) in reply to Xin

    exactly.
  4. kylelizard kylelizard is offline

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    Apr 8th, 2008 (4/8/2008 9:48pm) in reply to Xin

    JJ is an overrated hand an often overplayed. However, in this instance you have a dream flop for Jacks. With your raise preflop and the two calls your pot size is around 700. You then bet out 600 after the flop and get a call so now the pot is 2200 now the last person is deciding on trying to build a stack early and that flop had fish smell all over it. I am guessing an overpair of 99s or TTs or most likely A8 or a semi-draw bluff raise. I think you put all ur chips in at that spot because ur most likely a 85 percent favorite or higher.

    If your wrong your out of the tourny, well play another one. If your right like I think I am you will have 14k in chips and put yourself in a nice postion to take control of the table when the blinds are at its peak just my thoughts.

    But I am gonna take that chance. Gl I hope this gives a different point of view.
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