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  1. So this is 3rd level, 75/150 and I have about 9k, havent played many hands and the table hasn't gotten out of line any where yet and I dont have any substantial reads on anyone

    pokerstars Game #40107018315: Tournament #285020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (75/150) - 2010/02/21 13:33:06 ET
    Table '285020016 137' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: jstockton#10 (20000 in chips)
    Seat 2: Titantom32 (9700 in chips)
    Seat 3: wimnl (8800 in chips)
    Seat 4: MAPunk (9363 in chips)
    Seat 5: atrocitas1 (9537 in chips)
    Seat 6: csabadeak (11175 in chips)
    Seat 7: frejep (12000 in chips)
    Seat 8: rtspurs (7625 in chips)
    Seat 9: lippersen (11875 in chips)
    lippersen: posts small blind 75
    jstockton#10: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Titantom32 [Kc Qd]
    Titantom32: raises 210 to 360
    wimnl: folds
    MAPunk: folds
    atrocitas1: folds
    csabadeak: calls 360
    frejep: calls 360
    rtspurs: calls 360
    lippersen: calls 285
    jstockton#10: calls 210
    *** FLOP *** [Qh Kd 6c]
    lippersen: checks
    jstockton#10: checks
    Titantom32: bets 1050
    csabadeak: raises 1950 to 3000
    atrocitas1 is disconnected
    frejep: raises 1950 to 4950
    rtspurs: folds
    lippersen: folds
    jstockton#10: folds
    Titantom32:
  2. ugh, would be crappy to run into 66 here
  3. seems liek a rare spot where i would fold top 2
  4. thats fucking sick and has to be a puke fold..no way you're ahead here
     
  5. i think you have to fold...i mean..vs 1 raise nah..but the 2nd raise on that board is such a tight range that you are either all splitting with kq or he has exactly 66
  6.  
    Originally Posted by gutshtallin View Post

    i think you have to fold...i mean..vs 1 raise nah..but the 2nd raise on that board is such a tight range that you are either all splitting with kq or he has exactly 66

    this..
  7. What was the outcome? You fold it obv?
  8. ok, so your up against a donk overplaying AK, and a donk overplaying bottom 2 pair, or even a draw. Obviously if you have any reads, it makes the decision a little easier, but seriously, this seems like a profitable spot here.

    I also wouldnt rule out 'csabadeak' was trying to trap with AA here considering he was next to act after you, not figuring there would be so many callers behind...either way, i think its early enough in this tournament where this spot is worth the risk to accumulate a bunch of chippies!
  9. fold pre......as played .....not a clue lol
  10. guess its set over ak or something? Norm when I fold here im wrong and if i call im wrong so i dunno. i hardly ever play kq its tough to play unless you flop the nuts and even top 2 isnt good apparently
  11. Good fold for me.
    Say frejep has a set of 6s. Is it standard to re-raise on that flop, or would he be better flatting csabadeak's raise?
  12. pretty sick spot. Frejep's mini re raise really looks like the set of 6s or KQ tho. ANd still hafta worry about csabadeak. I fold here and would feel good about it. Results?
  13. yeah puke-fold given we saw a flop 5way and it is pretty dry.
  14. I feel like if I was a little deeper stacked or a different tourney it would be a clear fold, but there being 12-13k in the pot already and knowing that randoms in the warmup could essentially be flatting with k6s or q6s. And it being so early in the tourney, my stack + the size of the pot makes folding KQ here a potentially awful 32k mistake if I do indeed have the best hand, If I am beat, im probably ok with busting the tournament with 20 other great tournaments to play later in the day. Those were my reasons behind not folding.

    That being said, I got it in and the 1st raiser also had KQ and the 2nd raiser did indeed have 66 and I busted.
    Thread Starter
  15.  
    Originally Posted by gutshtallin View Post

    i think you have to fold...i mean..vs 1 raise nah..but the 2nd raise on that board is such a tight range that you are either all splitting with kq or he has exactly 66

    your the best ryan!
  16. Saw the hand go down and didn't think I'd see you have anything less than a set there. Was kinda shocked when you flipped the KQ tbh. As gross as it is, I really wanna lay it down. You'll still have a decent stack after you fold and I think the min 3-bettor has exactly 66 way too often to make this profitable.

    I guess this might be a good spot to OPR the two other players and go off of that, but if they are even OK players I think you gotta fold it.
     

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