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grossssssss pf spot with QQ in 20r

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  1. bombtrack311 bombtrack311 is offline

    Blue Springs, MO
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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 8:21pm)

    I've been opening a lot of pots, haven't shown down anything too terrible..

    villains seem more on the loose passive side..

    Full Tilt Poker Game #9842552715: $10,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (74740957), Table 30 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:15:37 ET - 2009/01/03
    Seat 1: Cleojeje (4,199)
    Seat 2: Winnienum (13,525)
    Seat 3: Doyle Donkson (10,925)
    Seat 4: 7pokermaster7 (3,838)
    Seat 5: boseboys (5,046)
    Seat 6: bombtrack311 (11,047)
    7pokermaster7 posts the small blind of 100
    boseboys posts the big blind of 200
    The button is in seat #3
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bombtrack311 [Qc Qh]
    bombtrack311 raises to 500
    Cleojeje raises to 4,199, and is all in
    Winnienum folds
    Doyle Donkson raises to 10,925, and is all in
    7pokermaster7 folds
    boseboys folds
    bombtrack311 ???
  2. Adam013085 Adam013085 is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 8:57pm) in reply to bombtrack311

    wow i dunno.... i think i prob get it in here but probably behind... i have trouble folding qq but u got a lot of chips at the 100 200 level....
  3. SneakOne SneakOne is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 9:27pm) in reply to bombtrack311

    I fold pretty quickly.
     
  4. IBGrindin IBGrindin is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 9:28pm) in reply to SneakOne

    I get it in pretty quickly
     
  5. patvoytko patvoytko is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 9:29pm) in reply to IBGrindin

    maybe hes trying to isolate the original shove?

    im calling
  6. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 10:35pm) in reply to patvoytko

    Ya but how loose do you think UTG+1 is shoving on us with over 20 bb's still? I can't see the 2nd shover's range being any wider then QQ+AK and UTG+1 with like 1010+ak, maybe AQ. I think this is a fold without any solid reads.
     
  7. The Baby Bull The Baby Bull is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 10:36pm) in reply to bombtrack311

    Totally read dependent.. doncha think? If the villian is loose I'm calling 'cause I think he's isolating. If he's a rock, ez fold. Either way it's a sick spot.
     
  8. gray31 gray31 is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 10:46pm) in reply to The Baby Bull

    Pretty easy call imo, now if you had JJ that would be gross.
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  9. pikappraider78 pikappraider78 is offline

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    Jan 3rd, 2009 (1/3/2009 10:49pm) in reply to The Baby Bull

    ugh... lets see. i think the original 20bb shover is shoving wider then we think here. it is 6 max and the 20r plays pretty loose on full tilt. id say hes shoving 99+ and AQ+. the big is what im worried about. especially since we have a big stack. the thing is is that i think he still shoves jj here as well as qq kk aa obv. and ak is in his range too. against those ranges were 35% equity so even though its tough the pot is givign us the right odds to call. jacks are a fold though. my calling range here is qq+ and thats it.
     
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