[ImaLucSac]

Guys, we have a problem and its costing us all a Fortune. More and more when I play at the tables I see people constantly berating others, be they fish, regs or just casual folks looking to have a good time. The saddest part of this is that the people who partake in this activity are the people who are most likely to depend on poker as their livelihood, or they at least take the game very seriously. This means the folks that frequent sites like this and two plus two. People just do not realize that the casual gamer does not want to be yelled at for making a mistake and they certainly dont want you to make their losses public. For the love of god stop quoting ROIs at people. When I first got into poker the idea of "not tapping the glass" was in a lot of poker literature and just seemed to make a lot of sense to me. Obviously I have been guilty of getting angry and saying a snide remark in the past, but we all need to make a conscious effort to stop this. Poker is going through a slower period atm, and most of the regs can easily see this in the strength of fields in even the lower buyin tournies. What we need is people to make a conscious effort to make poker fun for the casual player and not let them know that we are out to club them in an alley and take their money if they play stupid. YOU WANT THEM TO PLAY STUPID.

The added benefit to not berating players is taht you will feel better yourself. When you dont allow yourself to get angry enough to berate someone you will be less likely to tilt. Now I know that Im tapping on the glass right now and allowing you all a little insight into how to potentially control tilt... but its worth it to get people to change I think. Id normally just let people go on getting absurdly angry, but this is becoming ridiculous and taking money out of all our pockets. Lets all grow up a little and just stop.

Thanks for your time.

[mooknam]

Well said, cosign.

[Cuthroat187]

How do you feel about slow rolling people?

[anignosaj]

agree with this

[horsey123]

yeah well said, i agree. I sometimes get angry and tell em there donks but at the end of the day, just as you said we want the fish playing poker!!!! going to slap myself everytime i type donk, fish, twatard or pr**k in the chat from now on!! nice post, due for some1 to say this

[horsey123]

 

Originally Posted by Cuthroat187

How do you feel about slow rolling people?

slow rolling is sick!!! hate some1 almost timing out only to slap u with AA!
makes me more angry than a bad beat!! sportsmanship

[LXIXME17]

im definately guilty of this and will make a conscious effort to not berate.

[bef99hwk]

Nope I won't....me berating in the chat box leads to me timing out on one of the many other tables which might decimate the opponent, or lead me to tilt copy/pasting into AIM like a dumbass, and therefore losing focus on another hand that donates chippies to a donk again. All a big cycle that works both ways :p

[stevem1267]

shut up op.. fish love the attention.. i dont berate but its not as dramatic as u would like to believe

[Mr Galt sister-in-law's a ho]

This happens in every trny and it is a shame. If you hate money, then keep berating the fish.

[casperthefriendly]

�You called me a fish on more than one occasion...

[MadTiger]

Most of us should self-ban our chat. Not all, but most.

[Illini213]

 

Originally Posted by stevem1267

shut up op.. fish love the attention.. i dont berate but its not as dramatic as u would like to believe

Only fish that know their playing like big idiots like to be berated, random player def doesnt

[Bdybldngpkrplyr]

I agree that its bad for the game overall but i disagree that not berating others would make you feel better. going nuts in the chatbox relieves stress at the tables and calms me down way more than just trying to let the incident go.

[The Worm]

When was the last time you berated someone and they instantly started playing better? When was the last time you talked shit and they got up and left? If anything, when you start talking shit it encourages the people to keep doing what they are doing. I use to think it was stupid to "tap the glass", but I don't think it matters anymore. IMO, it makes them play the same esp. against the person thats berating, ie you, which in the long run is a good thing.

[ira3801]

well said and congrats on finding a topic,that is a huge pain in the ass to hear.You,being a fine player,knows,everyone makes bad plays.You want them to,so why berate.

[Tarvin]

 

Originally Posted by Bdybldngpkrplyr

I agree that its bad for the game overall but i disagree that not berating others would make you feel better. going nuts in the chatbox relieves stress at the tables and calms me down way more than just trying to let the incident go.

I would recommend you research some better anger management techniques. Bad beats and suck outs hurt, and sometimes it's a struggle to just let them slide off, but you really should find a way to deal that doesn't involve shooting yourself in the foot.

[darkcheck_]

 

Originally Posted by Tarvin

I would recommend you research some better anger management techniques. Bad beats and suck outs hurt, and sometimes it's a struggle to just let them slide off, but you really should find a way to deal that doesn't involve shooting yourself in the foot.

maybe he could hit the gym!

[cbol04]

100% this. I cant stand when players berate others and so many times its players who dont necesarily have to right to berate others. We want these players at our tables stop yelling at them. I also hate lessons at the table. When players begin to tell these monkeys what they should have done and why. idk but that just botherss me but thats a whole nother issue

[ImaLucSac]

 

Originally Posted by Bdybldngpkrplyr

I agree that its bad for the game overall but i disagree that not berating others would make you feel better. going nuts in the chatbox relieves stress at the tables and calms me down way more than just trying to let the incident go.

No way man, if you dont allow yourself to feel anger because someone did exactly what you want you will feel FAR better in the long run than through venting.

[gutshtallin]

Cofcking SIGN!!!

[DBo Fo Sho Taking advantage of Official Threads]

i often remind myself of this exact thing when i want to berate someone. i just give regulars crap when they play like total donks

[pokerbrat13]

Cosign. Everyone please stop doing this.

[ohioschwa]

Berate all who berate to make friends with the bad player. If they think they are your friend, they will seek you out and join your tables. When they do something stupid and suck out on you, tell them nh. Apologize every now and then when you win a big pot for the bad beat you put on them.

[mdshack14]

repost

[Reech around]

cosign

[CalBandGreat]

Everything the OP says is true, but I think the OP is the same guy who supports slow-rolling people at random and that is also terrible for the game. Just last night I was playing in the Commerce $1K and I was talking with some old dude and he was talking about how he keeps randomly getting slow-rolled and how much it pisses him off and makes him not want to play online. This particular guy seemed to play decent, but the last thing online pro's should want to do is chase away old guys who play for fun and have enough money to enter a live $1K. So good message, hypocritical messenger (I apologize if you are not the guy who always slow-rolls people and thinks its funny).

[Moonlight Graham]

100% agree... its way more enjoyable leveling fish, and helping them validate their horific suck outs.

[NoMeNot]

Its a lost cause bro. I totally agree, but I don't see the majority of people who do berate changing anytime soon.

I for one, have never berated. You will usually just either never hear anything from me or the typical "NH" because I want them to think that awful play they made is actually a good play. By typing "NH" or saying something nice, you give them that subconscious thought that the play was good, and they might be dumb enough to do it again. After all, they do have fond memories of it working last time. By you reinforcing it by complimenting, you are encouraging more bad play..... Though I am surprised my mouse has survived the quick squeezes I put on it.

On the flip side, I hate it when people chase bad players away from the table by berating them. I have never reported anyone's chat, but if it bothers you that much, that is what the (call moderator) button is for. If everyone agrees to use it more liberally, then and only then will you possibly see an end to the madness.....not by posting it at pocketfives, where the same person who just read this thread is going to go wish someone a slow suffocating death in quick sand on there AK<72 beat that they just took and then justifying their loss by quoting the guy's -56% ROI.

[OneTime_10]

Cosign. Will make a conscious effort to stop this completely.

Also agree slow-rolling is no good either