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Hand deepish in sunday million- too close to call.

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  1. Steve Murkle Steve Murkle is offline

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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 3:26pm) in reply to Schlik20

     
    Originally Posted by Schlik20 View Post

    god no, I play to win... I did shove and ran into QQ in MP...

    In this specific table scenario, stealing the blinds would not have been very difficult. Very tight mostly passive table except for tim0thee- BUT I guess I cant raise fold in LP after the blinds pass thru... making this a shove.

    thx for the reinforcement fellas.

    If the table is this tight than shoving here becomes way more profitable
     
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 3:27pm) in reply to herbstreet24

    ez shove
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 4:16pm) in reply to pinishe45

    easy shoved!!!

    go for it
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 4:19pm) in reply to tommysofly

    Are you serious OP????? EASY SHOVE!!!
     
  5. Pipes06 Pipes06 is offline

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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 5:18pm) in reply to pokerscrub1

    We can unexploitably shove 44+, A7s+, ATo+, K9s+, KJo+, QTs+, TJs here. I'd want to be a position further to shove any pair, although depending on the table i'd get all pairs in.
     
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 5:20pm) in reply to Pipes06

    shove, laugh and close laptop when BB wakes up w QQ
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 5:26pm) in reply to Pipes06

     
    Originally Posted by Pipes06 View Post

    We can unexploitably shove 44+, A7s+, ATo+, K9s+, KJo+, QTs+, TJs here. I'd want to be a position further to shove any pair, although depending on the table i'd get all pairs in.

    this isnt true

    is it?
    Edited By: okse54 Aug 26th, 2010 at 05:27 PM
    Reason: i mean like, it cant be true right?
     
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 8:43pm) in reply to okse54

    When its optimal to shove 7s with 7 to act after you, it dosn't say much for the structure of the million!
    Theres also 6+ you, in push/fold mode at your table!
    Edited By: rayfox111 Aug 26th, 2010 at 08:44 PM
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 9:14pm) in reply to rayfox111

     
    Originally Posted by rayfox111 View Post

    When its optimal to shove 7s with 7 to act after you, it dosn't say much for the structure of the million!
    Theres also 6+ you, in push/fold mode at your table!

    What do you propose instead? Wait for KK/AA? I agree that there are others here who are short-stacked, but are you playing to move up the payout ladder, or to get to where the real money is? This is well into the money, and I'm after maximising my chance of winning this thing. Pick up what's out there or GTFO!
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 10:45pm) in reply to okse54

    Maybe i'm going off a chart that's flawed but I assumed that it was close to accurate. I did forget to mention A2-A5s in my post.
     
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 11:20pm) in reply to Pipes06

    ICM Nash Calculator Results
    UTG+1

    17.6%, 22+ A8s+ A5s ATo+ K9s+ KJo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+ T9s 98s

    these results are specific to the blind level and stack sizes indicated in the OP (ie, not from a general use chart)

    http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sn...3816&s9=220731
    Edited By: wes_mc Aug 26th, 2010 at 11:34 PM
    Reason: link added
     
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    Aug 26th, 2010 (8/26/2010 11:53pm) in reply to Pipes06

     
    Originally Posted by Pipes06 View Post

    Maybe i'm going off a chart that's flawed but I assumed that it was close to accurate. I did forget to mention A2-A5s in my post.

    can i see the chart?
     
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    Aug 27th, 2010 (8/27/2010 10:33am) in reply to hushpuckena

     
    Originally Posted by hushpuckena View Post

    What do you propose instead? Wait for KK/AA? I agree that there are others here who are short-stacked, but are you playing to move up the payout ladder, or to get to where the real money is? This is well into the money, and I'm after maximising my chance of winning this thing. Pick up what's out there or GTFO!

    I understand/agree with what your saying Hush. But pushing 7s into 7 players aint the greatest of spots!
    The main point I was trying to make, was saying that the sunday million is the flagship MTT, the structure sucks somewhat.
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    Aug 27th, 2010 (8/27/2010 5:26pm) in reply to rayfox111

     
    Originally Posted by rayfox111 View Post

    I understand/agree with what your saying Hush. But pushing 7s into 7 players aint the greatest of spots!
    The main point I was trying to make, was saying that the sunday million is the flagship MTT, the structure sucks somewhat.

    On the structure of the Million, it would be nice to have it a bit slower, but then you're faced with the reality that it becomes a two-day event or goes longer than the 12-14 hours needed to get to the FT. At least when I FT'd it five years ago, that was six hours in a field of ~2500.
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 7:45pm) in reply to hushpuckena

    I'm like excited to shove this with 10bbs... wtf
     
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 9:51pm) in reply to FatsoFat6969

    Is there no action before you there? If so i shove but if there is ep raise i don't like shoving a mid pair over the top even shortstacked.
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 10:04pm) in reply to XmoroX

    i prefer a 4x r/f. if you get reraised then you know that you are beat and can get out of the way. if you aren't beat than you win the blinds and antes. tournament life is key in these online tournaments
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 10:10pm) in reply to CSU_Shark

    ............ shove any effin pair here
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 10:11pm) in reply to CSU_Shark

     
    Originally Posted by CSU_Shark View Post

    i prefer a 4x r/f. if you get reraised then you know that you are beat and can get out of the way. if you aren't beat than you win the blinds and antes. tournament life is key in these online tournaments

    So you're raising almost half your stack pre, then folding to a raise.....wow....how does that work out for you?
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 10:28pm) in reply to Ace10Suted

     
    Originally Posted by Ace10Suted View Post

    So you're raising almost half your stack pre, then folding to a raise.....wow....how does that work out for you?

    hows having no sense for sarcasm working for you?
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 11:01pm) in reply to doomed222

     
    Originally Posted by doomed222 View Post

    hows having no sense for sarcasm working for you?

    LOL....you just assume it's sarcasm if someone says something like that. Not always the case.
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    Aug 28th, 2010 (8/28/2010 11:03pm) in reply to Ace10Suted

     
    Originally Posted by Ace10Suted View Post

    LOL....you just assume it's sarcasm if someone says something like that. Not always the case.

    i dont know what sarcasm means
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