Full Tilt Poker Game #12170636965: FTOPS Event #12 (Early Antes) (84233561), Table 165 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:16:21 ET - 2009/05/12
Seat 1: JohnnyGstaks (51,527)
Seat 2: andrea5585 (29,197)
Seat 3: UHaveNoOutz (105,212)
Seat 4: tiltandris (89,015)
Seat 5: holla-athca-boy (84,501)
Seat 6: JohnnyBelow (49,716)
JohnnyGstaks antes 150
andrea5585 antes 150
UHaveNoOutz antes 150
tiltandris antes 150
holla-athca-boy antes 150
JohnnyBelow antes 150
holla-athca-boy posts the small blind of 600
JohnnyBelow posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JohnnyBelow [Ac Js]
JohnnyGstaks raises to 3,000
andrea5585 folds
UHaveNoOutz folds
tiltandris calls 3,000
UHaveNoOutz: =))
UHaveNoOutz: ty
holla-athca-boy has 15 seconds left to act
holla-athca-boy folds
JohnnyBelow calls 1,800
*** FLOP *** [Ah 3h As]
JohnnyBelow checks
JohnnyGstaks checks
tiltandris checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 3h As] [Qc]
JohnnyBelow bets 4,875
holla-athca-boy has been disconnected
holla-athca-boy has reconnected
UHaveNoOutz: )
JohnnyGstaks has 15 seconds left to act
JohnnyGstaks raises to 10,850
tiltandris folds
JohnnyBelow calls 5,975
*** RIVER *** [Ah 3h As Qc] [2c]
JohnnyBelow checks
JohnnyGstaks has 15 seconds left to act
JohnnyGstaks bets 37,527, and is all in
JohnnyBelow has 15 seconds left to act

JohnnyBelow ???

bet looks like he wants paying of by Ax i wouldnt be suprised if he turns up with AQ here, AK wouldnt shove imo. again not my level but im saying fold

how can he reraise it pf.......

 

Originally Posted by MUPokerPlayer

imo he either has 33/A3suited here or a worse ace. with AK/AQ/QQ he'd prob reraise pf.

I'd say 30% chance he has 33/A3, 60% chance he has AX with X being jack or lower, and 10% chance of air/AK/AQ/QQ.

I'd call.

Villain opend...I guess that opens AK/AQ a lot more along with QQ, but not 33 IMO

I mean maybe this is way off, but I feel like he really had you beat wouldn't he bet more for value? I mean look , if he knows you have an Ace, and he's got QQ full or AQ etc....maybe he's going to overshove hoping that you can't lay it down or that you think what im saying, that it's an overshove.

But in order for him to make that play he has to know that you have an Ace, but how can he KNOW that you have Ax when your line was check the flop, bet-call the turn, then check the river.....he could easily be putting you on a mid pocket pair, or KQ.
you checking the flop shows weakness so it's not impossible to think you are good here.

If I had to guess though, I think he caught up on the turn with QQ.
I mean we have no info about how this guy has been playing though.....

Hey JB. Depending on how active he was, do u think he'd be raising 33/A3 utg? Of course QQ would raise utg so that is another possibilty as well as AK/AQ. Sick spot, I would try to find the fold button.

tough spot johhny, but i really think he has you beat.... it all depends on what he put you on... he def put you on an ace when u called his minraise... I think depending on how fast you called his minraise he can narrow you to just an ace instead of made boat .... so who knows, maybe you called too fast and he knows you are good enough to lay down just an ace with a push on river :)

in overall i think he had you

 

Originally Posted by xxCelticFCxx

1.if he has huge hand prob realises u have an ace and u may think hes bluffing with the overbet, i dont think he jams qq it is possible u could have that beat unless he has u on excactly what u have obv, aq most likely hand maybe a low sooted ace

2.or if he bluffin he may think u wont be able to call tht amount with a hand like u have maybe thinks pot bet or less wont get u 2 fold but that will, im kinda leaning more towards this

i dont know which 1 id choose lol, one of those real tuff spots that u normally end up folding cuz u dont know, pretty much player dependant

gay spot, why aj sucks

this

i would fold

snapcall. He thinks you have Qx. I think he tries to value his Kings or try yo make you fold your pair of queen with his NOTHING (overbet is the only way he can make you fold a queen here). he could also have a worst ace... its 6-handed

 

Originally Posted by MyJobisYou

 

Originally Posted by degen666

i think he has ace rag and is putting you on pocket kings

Possibly the exact opposite, but if he thought OP hand kings he would value bet river imo.

he could be a donk though. you cant just think every player plays normal poker

 

Originally Posted by degen666

i think he has ace rag and is putting you on pocket kings

with two other players in the hand, don't you think JohnnyBelow would raise w/ KK pre?

 

Originally Posted by degen666

my bad i thought our guy was raising utg with aj

lol no problem, i did the same thing first time i read the hand (see page 1), which is why i initially said call, but once i read the action correctly i changed my thoughts to fold.

I never get away from this hand. Might have you beat, but he is a very good player btw.

wow, um, I think fold and destroy something nearby. I could see KK here but doesnt seem likely the way he played it, but QQ & AQ (maybe A10) do seem to fit easily. He could have air but is that happening often enough to make this a profitable call? I dont think so but obv u would know better. to me ep raise\ check\raise call\ shove says QQ or air. If he has QQ and reships over top of you he risks losing you to a fold, if he flats the reraise he can shove the river on almost any card and if your calling a standard bet your probably calling his shove. idk take it fwiw, would like to hear your comments on this line if you dont mind.