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  1. BlueRenegade BlueRenegade is offline

    Vancouver, WA
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    Mar 22nd, 2010 (3/22/2010 7:40pm)

    This was my very first hand at a new table last night. We are ITM with about 75 players left. Chip leaders are around 150k. Further commentary following the hand...

    <pre wrap="">pokerstars Game #41525392985: Tournament #251959821, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (800/1600) - 2010/03/21 23:31:27 PT [2010/03/22 2:31:27 ET]
    Table '251959821 6' 8-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Donkey Fell (35694 in chips)
    Seat 2: leethdocks (40955 in chips)
    Seat 3: BlueRenegade (38397 in chips)
    Seat 4: OpieWan (16730 in chips)
    Seat 5: ProfaPoker (49580 in chips)
    Seat 6: srbaces (145005 in chips)
    Seat 7: vuk4 (87093 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 8: AdmBenbow (34505 in chips)
    Donkey Fell: posts the ante 200
    leethdocks: posts the ante 200
    BlueRenegade: posts the ante 200
    OpieWan: posts the ante 200
    ProfaPoker: posts the ante 200
    srbaces: posts the ante 200
    vuk4: posts the ante 200
    AdmBenbow: posts the ante 200
    leethdocks: posts small blind 800
    BlueRenegade: posts big blind 1600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to BlueRenegade [9c 9d]
    OpieWan: raises 14930 to 16530 and is all-in
    ProfaPoker: folds
    srbaces: folds
    vuk4: folds
    AdmBenbow: folds
    Donkey Fell: folds
    leethdocks: folds
    BlueRenegade: ??

    I'd like some feedback about this hand in particular...easy call? Easy fold? Somewhere in between? What would your personal calling range be in this situation?

    More generally, this kind of thing comes up all the time--you're in the blinds and a short stack shoves on you, or you're going for a blind steal and a shorty shoves over the top of you. I often feel "priced in" by the pot odds, make the call, lose the hand, and suddenly I'm the short stack.

    How do you guys usually handle these kinds of situations? I know it's somewhat read-dependent, but if you don't know the player, what kind of pot odds are you looking for when you're a medium stack (that's usually where I seem to find myself) and you're looking at calling off half your chips with K8 or 33 because some short stack shoved over your blind steal?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Blue
    </pre>
  2. AE23 AE23 is offline

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    Mar 22nd, 2010 (3/22/2010 8:47pm) in reply to BlueRenegade

    personally I call, he only has 10bbs and pushing from UTG (right before the blinds hit his stack). it's unfortunate if he has an overpair, but thats poker...
  3. BlueRenegade BlueRenegade is offline

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    Mar 22nd, 2010 (3/22/2010 8:58pm) in reply to AE23

    Anybody have any more general comments/suggestions about dealing with short-stack pushes?

    I thought this particular instance was an easy call also, am curious to see if anybody disagrees?

    Thanks for the response,

    Blue
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  4. LitezOut LitezOut is offline

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    Mar 22nd, 2010 (3/22/2010 9:23pm) in reply to BlueRenegade

    even with a super nitty read, in that spot I pretty much call all day and figure I'm racing two overs...
    like the previous poster said, if he has 10's or better, oh well but I think you'll find he's shoving with much less
  5. BBird40 BBird40 is offline

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    Mar 22nd, 2010 (3/22/2010 11:16pm) in reply to LitezOut

     
    Originally Posted by LitezOut View Post

    even with a super nitty read, in that spot I pretty much call all day and figure I'm racing two overs...
    like the previous poster said, if he has 10's or better, oh well but I think you'll find he's shoving with much less

    ^^^This.

    This guys is pushing with a large range...Say Top 15% or more.

    You gotta call
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