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  1. pokerstars Game #32063274355: Tournament #188959954, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/08/25 22:28:37 ET
    Table '188959954 16' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: TennMan23 (4916 in chips)
    Seat 2: tarashme (50015 in chips)
    Seat 3: shuggen (19715 in chips)
    Seat 4: barell_rolla (20537 in chips)
    Seat 5: Gags30 (20744 in chips)
    Seat 6: PrinceAndrew (22096 in chips)
    TennMan23: posts the ante 50
    tarashme: posts the ante 50
    shuggen: posts the ante 50
    barell_rolla: posts the ante 50
    Gags30: posts the ante 50
    PrinceAndrew: posts the ante 50
    PrinceAndrew: posts small blind 200
    TennMan23: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to shuggen [Qh Qs]
    tarashme: folds
    shuggen: raises 700 to 1100
    barell_rolla: folds
    Gags30: raises 1894 to 2994
    PrinceAndrew: folds
    TennMan23: raises 1872 to 4866 and is all-in
    shuggen: ?
  2. ha, allin plz

    but im sure this is the time he has KK/AA but it's still a iso
     
  3. does he know who you are/view you as a competent player? if you flat the shove will he try to reshove over you to get you off a lot of hands?
     
  4. Shove...
  5. gags is shit, go all in you win
  6. doubt he regards me as particularly good
    Thread Starter
  7. i literally lol'd plz get it in
     
  8. lol @gags being shit...
  9. fwiw, i'm never light here. i usually only 3b QQ+,AK here...but ti's 6 max so i probably 3b JJ too.

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  10.  
    Originally Posted by Gags30 View Post

    fwiw, i'm never light here. i usually only 3b QQ+,AK here...but ti's 6 max so i usually 3b JJ too here but only to find out where im at, and i fold

    fyp
     
  11. lawl
     
  12.  
    Originally Posted by funnygut View Post

    fyp

    JJ is a tough hand to play tho, it's good to know where you are in the hand before putting your whole stack at risk
  13. sircrafty=trying to suck up to gags? hmmmmmmmm
  14. Gags has the 7 of spades and 9 of hearts here...I'd personally jam, but unlucky he woke up with top 1% of his range when he has this range like .01% of the time here.
  15. I actually shoved and he folded, so no more posts about this being RO ty
    Thread Starter
  16.  
    Originally Posted by shuggen View Post

    I actually shoved and he folded, so no more posts about this being RO ty

    sick 4 bet
     
  17. I mean u could flat but that would allow gag's junk to see a ton of crap cheaply, altho I'd think he'd reiso if you snap called or something
  18. jesus christ it's not like I'm posting about folding kings in a single raised pot, no need to be enormous tools in a thread enquiring about optimal lines

    excellent work forcing anybody who wants to discuss hands to 2p2
    Thread Starter
  19. Well no offense but ur post sucked...you didn't tell us what ur asking...usually when ppl post a hand like this it's a jam or fold question. U didn't ask whether to flat or jam
  20. I appreciate your input bef, that's addressed to the guys that posted sarcastic comments in a thread that doesn't really warrant it.

    Is it really necessary to direct the question when all I can do is fold, call, raise or shove?
    Thread Starter
  21.  
    Originally Posted by shuggen View Post


    Is it really necessary to direct the question when all I can do is fold, call, raise or shove?

    lolz
     
  22.  
    Originally Posted by shuggen View Post

    I appreciate your input bef, that's addressed to the guys that posted sarcastic comments in a thread that doesn't really warrant it.

    Is it really necessary to direct the question when all I can do is fold, call, raise or shove?

    Yes because we want to know which option you are leaning towards and why you chose to do so....and then ppl can say why it's wrong/right.
  23. gags is god = fold
     1
  24.  
    Originally Posted by bef99hwk View Post

    Yes because we want to know which option you are leaning towards and why you chose to do so....and then ppl can say why it's wrong/right.

    Fair explanation. I didn't want to flat him because I'd be pretty lost oop on something like a raggy K high board. My main issue with shoving straight in is that it's 50 bbs right into the middle and he either snap calls with better or folds worse.
    Thread Starter
  25.  
    Originally Posted by shuggen View Post

    Fair explanation. I didn't want to flat him because I'd be pretty lost oop on something like a raggy K high board. My main issue with shoving straight in is that it's 50 bbs right into the middle and he either snap calls with better or folds worse.

    I thought that it was pretty apparent what you were asking and why this is a tough spot, I guess I'm in the minority.

    I normally wouldnt flat here if the second raiser werent all in but if Gank is just on a bluff with two randoms or a mid pair is he going to call the second raise?
    And if he does and an Ace or Kings comes off is he really likely to take a stab at the flop if he doesnt have an ace or King, knowing the the other guy is already all in and he is just bluffing his stack to win a side pot?

    I think that I really might just call here, if a K or A comes out and he shoves I'd fold if I flop the overpair I shove and hope he's not trapping with KK AA.

    If you call the allin pre and Gank shoves??? I think you have to put him on JJ - AA or AK, I could honestly see folding at that point seeing as how deep stacked you guys are.
  26.  
    Originally Posted by Gags30 View Post

    fwiw, i'm never light here. i usually only 3b QQ+,AK here...but ti's 6 max so i probably 3b JJ too.

    Nobody works harder at making the whole poker world think he's nit then Gags. And folding and calling are your 2 worst options here. Either shove or raise/call.
     
  27. snap shove fist pump in 6max or your bad.
     
  28. i flat... gags wont ever reshove with worse than QQ so u can flat and when gags shoves u kno ur beat and u can fold
     1
  29. LOLz, gags wins though.
  30.  
    Originally Posted by Gags30 View Post

    fwiw, i'm never light here. i usually only 3b QQ+,AK here...but ti's 6 max so i probably 3b JJ too.

    must be joking
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