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Hand Vs Known Reg Deep in 3r

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  1. Skkills Skkills is offline

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 5:00am)

    pokerstars Game #54751980889: Tournament #345010514, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXI (30000/60000) - 2010/12/23 20:13:07 PT [2010/12/23 23:13:07 ET]
    Table '345010514 430' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: viktor3000 (10665399 in chips)
    Seat 2: BeL0WaB0Ve (3989261 in chips)
    Seat 4: impaidbeatch (2403280 in chips)
    Seat 5: Kevingil30 (1831103 in chips)
    Seat 6: skkills (2252110 in chips)
    Seat 7: TSV Coll. (1058828 in chips)
    Seat 8: HATAXA777 (1399751 in chips)
    Seat 9: chabby36 (2577252 in chips)
    viktor3000: posts the ante 6000
    BeL0WaB0Ve: posts the ante 6000
    impaidbeatch: posts the ante 6000
    Kevingil30: posts the ante 6000
    skkills: posts the ante 6000
    TSV Coll.: posts the ante 6000
    HATAXA777: posts the ante 6000
    chabby36: posts the ante 6000
    HATAXA777: posts small blind 30000
    chabby36: posts big blind 60000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to skkills [As Qd]
    viktor3000: folds
    BeL0WaB0Ve: raises 60000 to 120000
    impaidbeatch: folds
    Kevingil30: folds
    skkills: calls 120000
    TSV Coll.: folds
    HATAXA777: folds
    chabby36: calls 60000
    *** FLOP *** [Td Qh 5s]
    chabby36: checks
    BeL0WaB0Ve: bets 163261
    skkills: calls 163261
    chabby36: raises 286850 to 450111
    BeL0WaB0Ve: folds
    skkills: raises 1501483 to 1951594
    chabby36: raises 499658 to 2451252 and is all-in
    skkills: calls 174516 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (325142) returned to chabby36
    *** TURN *** [Td Qh 5s] [2c]
    *** RIVER *** [Td Qh 5s 2c] [4c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    chabby36: shows [Th Qs] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
    skkills: shows [As Qd] (a pair of Queens)
    chabby36 collected 4853481 from pot
    skkills finished the tournament in 16th place and received $216.01.
    BeL0WaB0Ve said, "qk"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4853481 | Rake 0
    Board [Td Qh 5s 2c 4c]
    Seat 1: viktor3000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: BeL0WaB0Ve folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: impaidbeatch folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Kevingil30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: skkills showed [As Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 7: TSV Coll. (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: HATAXA777 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: chabby36 (big blind) showed [Th Qs] and won (4853481) with two pair, Queens and Tens

    This is a new table for me, but i have been highly active... i have 3bet 2xs and flop raised a guy when he donked out of the sb(we had history) all in under 10hands

    Then comes this hand...

    I know Below is watching the table and seen me and my active play so i decide to flat the AQo because i dont feel i can play it to a 4ball from him with whick he can do pretty light im sure...Im in postion with a under-rep'd hand

    So the bb call also im new to the table so i dont have reads on him...

    but on the QT5r flop i think he c/r there with all his draws and most Qx hands
    Thoughts on the spot please...

    Skkills *still no 3r FT ;(*
     
  2. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 3:55pm) in reply to Skkills

    Don't mind too much how you played it. I'd rather see a 3-bet pre-flop most of the time, but I understand your logic. Don't necessarily agree with it all the time, but I'm sure I'd just call there sometimes as well.
     
  3. Skkills Skkills is offline

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 8:03pm) in reply to grapsfan

    thank you Grapsfan for commenting... more thoughts guys please
     
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  4. petedog424 petedog424 is offline

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 9:58pm) in reply to Skkills

    why are you getting 40 bigs in there after the flop.. probably should exercise a bit of pot control or else fold when he reraises you there.. looks way too strong check raising. dont mind the flat pre but raising gives you more information and gets out the hands like 10 q. I dont like raising aq against fp raiser but depends how active he was i guess.. he was probably opening pretty wide at that buy in so.. really need more information to know what should be done
     
  5. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 10:48pm) in reply to petedog424

     
    Originally Posted by petedog424 View Post

    I dont like raising aq against fp raiser but depends how active he was i guess.. he was probably opening pretty wide at that buy in so.. really need more information to know what should be done

    I assume you've never heard of BeL0WaB0Ve, pete? AQ is like a pocket pair of jokers against his range, which is why I'd prefer a 3-bet/never folding to a 4-bet line here.
     
  6. Skkills Skkills is offline

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    Dec 24th, 2010 (12/24/2010 11:29pm) in reply to petedog424

    He's c/r range there is pretty wide imo... KJ all his Queens and J9(s) not to mention his random pure bluffs that doesn't believe me or Below...
    So think folding there would be a mistake..

    3betting was something i thought about but i didnt wanna face his random 4ball allin... thats why i opted to flat and keep his info on me limited... and i get to play in position.
    I think vs a me (random in his eyes) if i makes a hand post or thinks he can barrel me off he will.....Sick part was he had the KQo which he said after the hand in the chat..
    Edited By: Skkills Dec 24th, 2010 at 11:31 PM
     
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  7. petedog424 petedog424 is offline

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    Dec 25th, 2010 (12/25/2010 2:13am) in reply to Skkills

    obv ive heard of him.. he might be playin really tight at that table tho if its full of a bunch of 3 betting idiots.. his range isnt the same at all times bud

    your getting wayyyy too many blinds in there with tptk postflop imo
     
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    Dec 25th, 2010 (12/25/2010 1:44pm) in reply to petedog424

    OP I don't understand your logic, you're saying you've been active and you know that mr saul is capable of 4balling you light, normally I don't love 3bet/calling 40bigs with AQ but with the dynamic as you described it I absolutely LOVE 3bet/calling here, as graps said, AQ is the virtual nuts in this spot, so many hands he's shipping on you here if you have been somewhat active.
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