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Have I played this poorly on the turn / Is there any way not to go broke on the river?

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  1. FaulBreitner FaulBreitner is offline

    Austria

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    Dec 26th, 2007 (12/26/2007 9:27pm)

    Hi!

    This was the second hand of the HU sng (5$), so I don't have a decent read on my opponent. Now, here's the hand:

    pokerstars Game #14121118389: Tournament #71682504, $5.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Match-Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/12/26 - 21:41:14 (ET)
    Tisch '71682504 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: FaulBreitner (1447 in Chips)
    Seat 2: bigdaddy7722 (1553 in Chips)
    bigdaddy7722: setzt den Small Blind 10
    FaulBreitner: setzt den Big Blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to FaulBreitner [Td Ts]
    bigdaddy7722: calls 10
    FaulBreitner: raises 40 to 60
    bigdaddy7722: calls 40
    *** FLOP *** [2s 9d 5d]
    FaulBreitner: bets 80
    bigdaddy7722: calls 80
    *** TURN *** [2s 9d 5d] [Tc]
    FaulBreitner: checks
    bigdaddy7722: checks
    *** RIVER *** [2s 9d 5d Tc] [Ac]
    FaulBreitner: bets 160
    bigdaddy7722: raises 440 to 600
    FaulBreitner: raises 707 to 1307 and is all-in
    bigdaddy7722: calls 707
    *** SHOWDOWN ***
    FaulBreitner: shows [Td Ts] (three of a kind, tens)
    bigdaddy7722: shows [4s 3c] (a straight, ace to five)
    bigdaddy7722 collected 2894 from Pot

    Ok, now let's get through it. Preflop is standard, flopbet also. What is his range of flat calling here? It's a $5 game, so he could have A5, K5, Q5 suited, K9, Q9, maybe J9 or T9, a diamond draw or a straight draw or even some random rags. A9, 22 or 55 he would have reraised pre I think. Now comes the turn [Tc] and I make my set and check it. Now I think that this was a very weak play, since he could easily have a diamond draw (But I had in mind that he would have raised with that on the flop). I check, he checks, and the Ace comes up (what else), completing his straight. So, have I ruined my hand on the turn or is this an acceptable play? If so, is it possible to fold the hand to the river-raise? Remember this is a 5$ sng.

    thx for replys.

    BTW - this is my first post here. Hi P5ers!
  2. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    Dec 26th, 2007 (12/26/2007 9:34pm) in reply to FaulBreitner

    i'd just go ahead and check fold on the river
     
  3. cardplayer52 cardplayer52 is offline

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    Dec 27th, 2007 (12/27/2007 12:57am) in reply to FaulBreitner

    i don't like your turn check bet atleast 1/2 the pot see if it all goes in right there. with the str8 now there on the river i would probably check then call.but no i don't think i could fold the river no way not heads up.he could easily have two pair an ace or even a busted draw.did he quick call the flop bet (then the turn bet) sometimes thats a tell saying i'm on a draw. but you make more money betting out than slow playing say he was on a diamond draw does he call your river bet w/nothing?? he does hit his ace on the river does he cal w/ace high???bet out and make him make the mistake. if he's chasing the flush the turns where to mak the money not the river.
  4. Arobinson11 Arobinson11 is offline

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    Dec 27th, 2007 (12/27/2007 1:01am) in reply to FaulBreitner

    Folding this river would be terrible. In fact, not shoving over his raise would be terrible too.
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  5. SwoopAE SwoopAE is offline

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    Dec 27th, 2007 (12/27/2007 1:01am) in reply to FaulBreitner

    Completely standard, you just got unlucky.
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  6. Randinho Randinho is offline

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    Dec 27th, 2007 (12/27/2007 1:53am) in reply to FaulBreitner

    I think you're overanalyzing it too much because you lost. There is no avoiding going broke here.
  7. FaulBreitner FaulBreitner is offline

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    Dec 27th, 2007 (12/27/2007 4:35pm) in reply to FaulBreitner

    Thanks for the input!

    I go with cardplayers analysis there, turn was crucial, river was standard.
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