I am seeing this happen quite often on stars in the 25/50 games. A third player will join in and one of the regulars will try to run them off by typing: HU, please. Then if the player doesn't leave, they are treated like pariahs.

I think it's rude to ask someone to leave a table that is NOT designed for HU play. All of you 25/50 players have plenty of FPP's to create your own private HU tournaments on Stars. Other than that, you can always play on FTP where they do have HU tables.

In the meantime, I don't know why Stars isn't more flexible in terms of game selection. They use to have HU tables for micro limit players, and they were always very popular. I imagine Stars dumped them because most hands weren't raked and the bandwidth consumed exceeded their cost. I imagine a high limit HU table would generate quite a bit of rake and fast, even though many hands don't see a flop.

Elvis

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>If they wanted to play a heads-up SNG, they'd just join one in the Heads-up lobby in the SNG section instead of creating their own (which would take an hour to start anyway if they created it manually). They want to play HU cash, and since A) pokerstars doesn't have any HU tables and B) there's other tables available, it doesn't seem like such an unreasonable request. =</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
It absolutely is an unreasonable request. Last night, for instance, there were only four 25/50 tables available, and all had activity. When a couple of players sat in on one table, the two trying to play HU acted like a couple of schoolboys trying to protect their turf. It was funny and pathetic at once.

The tables are for 6 or 9 players. These guys need to deal with it.

Elvis

a heads up SNG is different from a heads up cash game

The way I see it, if you want to play heads up, go to another site. UltimateBet is probably the best place to play a heads up match because of the speed of dealing and getting onto the next hand. It's not hard to move some of your money. Personally I'd never play a heads up cash game on stars...action is waaaaay to slow.

Those weren't my words at all. Please go back and read for content before playing devil's advocate.

Didn't Ted Forrest sit down, outside of the corporation at the time, in one of the first Andy Beal matches, making a heads up match a 3 handed game?

If ever there was a good time for a "Heads up please" request, that would have been it.

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Why doesn't stars make everyone happy and create some headsup tables for all levels or allow people to create private tables. They should be happy to create headsup high stakes games because they charge double the rake for a headsup game than the other sites do.

AB, I watched last night, and a new 25/50 table was not spawned unless they all were close to filling up. If there are only two or three players on each, I saw no new tables created.

I'm not playing these games. I'm not interfering with them in any way. Unleash your bile, people, on those that dare to break the unwritten rules.

The bottom line is that these are not HU tables. Period.

Elvis

Yes, he did. All the tables were open seating, and they never expected anyone to be crazy enough to sit in that game with just his own money, except for possibly Ted and he was supposed to be out of town.

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The pot calling the kettle black. Some of you are unable to debate without having to resort to 9th grade profanity and rhetoric. You sound like a bunch of truck drivers getting parochial about your special place in cyber space.

Again, I don't play these limits. I am merely commenting upon what I have witnessed. Go unleash your hatred and schoolboy profanity on the players who are really causing you so much heartburn and distress.

E

In other words the railbird wants to watch a full ring not heads up.

<span>t absolutely is an unreasonable request. Last night, for instance, there were only four 25/50 tables available, and all had activity. When a couple of players sat in on one table, the two trying to play HU acted like a couple of schoolboys trying to protect their turf. It was funny and pathetic at once.</span>

<span>The tables are for 6 or 9 players. These guys need to deal with it.</span>

<span>Elvis

</span>They want to play HU. If it's completely within your rights to sit down, it's completely within their rights to sit out.

Also, for someone who complains about others making personal attacks, you sure do a lot of name-calling, yourself.

They want to play HU. If it's completely within your rights to sit down, it's completely within their rights to sit out.

Also, for someone who complains about others making personal attacks, you sure do a lot of name-calling, yourself.

I've got thick enough skin to deal with it. Curse and cry all you want, I don't care. But I played high school and college athletics, and even in football we all treated each other better than this. :)

Yes, they do have the right to sit out if they can't have their way. I didn't say they couldn't or shouldn't. And OK, it's NOT rude of them to ask to play heads up. But it IS rude when they resort to profanity when the player sitting in refuses their request.

Then again, after seeing this thread, nothing at a poker table, online or live, surprises me. Except I've never been in a poker game and had someone tell me what to do to my mother. Only on PocketFives!

Elvis

Yeah, I'll agree that profanity is out of the question and pretty ridiculous, really. When my friends and I do the HU thing, we never curse at anyone and just keep saying please until it works or we're forced to sit out and find another table.