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  1. Stupor_Mundi Stupor_Mundi is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 7:50am)

    Round 1 of a $26 sattie token 4 person HU on FTP. 2 cash, 2nd for $21 and first for a $75 sattie token. Relatively early on, Drew has very good sharkscope stats and is by all reads a pretty TAG/solid regular at these limits (maybe a bit higher usually).

    Given this and with top pair on this flop, what's your play? Are you not raising this preflop with 50 BB and A7 and if so, why?

    Results to follow.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #11430451242: Tier Two $24+$2 Sit & Go (85855912), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:09:45 ET - 2009/03/31
    Seat 1: drew0343 (1,425)
    Seat 2: Stupor_Mundi (1,575)
    Stupor_Mundi posts the small blind of 15
    drew0343 posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Stupor_Mundi [Ah 7s]
    Stupor_Mundi raises to 90
    drew0343 calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [Ad Td 8h]
    drew0343 checks
    Stupor_Mundi bets 100
    drew0343 raises to 300
    Stupor_Mundi ????
  2. Veteran In Love Veteran In Love is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 8:18am) in reply to Stupor_Mundi

    raising or calling in pos w/ A-7 pre this early doesn't really matter too much in the whole scheme of things, more along the lines of setting plays up for later/setting game pace

    As played, I'd lean toward check-calling and re-evaluating the turn, open-shoving is borderline here - you just can't be folding top pair in this spot because C-bets are usually interpreted as meaningless HU, and he could have anything here
     
  3. agpmedia agpmedia is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 8:26am) in reply to Veteran In Love

     
    Originally Posted by Veteran In Love View Post


    raising or calling in pos w/ A-7 pre this early doesn't really matter too much in the whole scheme of things, more along the lines of setting plays up for later/setting game pace

    As played, I'd lean toward check-calling and re-evaluating the turn, open-shoving is borderline here - you just can't be folding top pair in this spot because C-bets are usually meaningless HU, and he could just about have anything here

    Not to mention how many draws are out there with the A,10,8 and two diamonds.. that hits a lot of hands
  4. Fishnetgir1 Fishnetgir1 is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 9:08am) in reply to agpmedia

    This is a pretty common spot, but i can already tell that it's results oriented.... I would prolly call and make a decision based on the turn, but there is nothing that you should be doing in this spot 100% of the time. I dont really like shoving here at all because ur only gettin called by something that beats you or a combo draw of sorts (assuming ur read is correct) w/2 more to come.

    How'd it play out?
  5. GINS FINEST GINS FINEST is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 10:12am) in reply to Stupor_Mundi

    rasie to 550 / call shove
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  6. GINS FINEST GINS FINEST is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 10:13am) in reply to GINS FINEST

    def read dependent tho
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  7. OhAaT OhAaT is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 11:53am) in reply to Stupor_Mundi

    First I raise less pre. I know it doesnt mean a lot, but all the good players keep saying it and I've been trying to stick with it and it seems to work. Raising 3X the blinds is too much in most scenarios nowadays. I like to raise to 75 or 80 at this level. I know its trivial the small difference but once the blinds get bigger and you are raising the same amount proportionally it won't look weird to ur opponent, and will be saving you more chips as the blinds increase.

    Anyway, this particular hand I call the raise, and see how my opponent handles the turn. If a draw gets there and he is still firing I strongly consider folding. If a draw misses and he is still firing I probably end up getting it in as the pot has now gotten big and if you lose move onto the next tourney.
  8. rungoodmuch rungoodmuch is offline

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    Mar 31st, 2009 (3/31/2009 12:09pm) in reply to OhAaT

    This is really read dependant. Vs unknown I jam but puke when he flips A8
  9. Stupor_Mundi Stupor_Mundi is offline

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    Apr 1st, 2009 (4/1/2009 8:10am) in reply to Stupor_Mundi

    Here's results... call/reassess turn seems like best line after reading responses. The draw heavy board here is scary and in retrospect, my shove is not getting called by anything I beat.

    I am a relative donk at HU, so my thought was that top pair was a monster at HU and that a set was unlikely, so I shoved to push him off a ten. Good responses, more would be appreciated, especially from HU specialists.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #11430451242: Tier Two $24+$2 Sit & Go (85855912), Table 2 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:09:45 ET - 2009/03/31
    Seat 1: drew0343 (1,425)
    Seat 2: Stupor_Mundi (1,575)
    Stupor_Mundi posts the small blind of 15
    drew0343 posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Stupor_Mundi [Ah 7s]
    Stupor_Mundi raises to 90
    drew0343 calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [Ad Td 8h]
    drew0343 checks
    Stupor_Mundi bets 100
    drew0343 raises to 300
    Stupor_Mundi raises to 1,485, and is all in
    drew0343 calls 1,035, and is all in
    Stupor_Mundi shows [Ah 7s]
    drew0343 shows [9h As]
    Uncalled bet of 150 returned to Stupor_Mundi
    *** TURN *** [Ad Td 8h] [Qh]
    *** RIVER *** [Ad Td 8h Qh] [9c]
    Stupor_Mundi shows a pair of Aces
    drew0343 shows two pair, Aces and Nines
    drew0343 wins the pot (2,850) with two pair, Aces and Nines

    P.S. I did end up fighting back from 150 chips to get the lead until the blinds got big and I went card dead. He eventually picked off a pushbot shove from the button where I had 93o, but lost in the next round.
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  10. shuggen shuggen is offline

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    Apr 1st, 2009 (4/1/2009 10:24am) in reply to Stupor_Mundi

    Sorry, why are you shoving to push him off a T?
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