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Horrible call or Horrible bluff

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  1. Bruce2210 Bruce2210 is offline

    Laurel, MD
    United States

    Posts: 39
    Joined: Sep 06

    Nov 26th, 2006 (11/26/2006 3:36pm)

    I made this play based on this player being extremely loose and I was certain he was on a draw. But then at the end he calls. Was this a bad play by me?

    erinsdadd: -- --
    majelia: -- --
    PrimedUp: -- --
    Ronnie-X: -- --
    Twenty Spot: -- --
    phipsi04: -- --
    shocker74: -- --
    deshan6: -- --
    PokerMan2210: Js Ah

    Pre-flop:

    PokerMan2210 raises to 300. erinsdadd folds.
    majelia folds. PrimedUp folds. Ronnie-X folds.
    Twenty Spot folds. phipsi04 folds. shocker74 calls.
    deshan6 folds.

    Flop (board: 6d 7c 3h):

    shocker74 bets 150. PokerMan2210 raises to 700.
    shocker74 calls.

    Turn (board: 6d 7c 3h Td):

    shocker74 checks. PokerMan2210 bets 1350. shocker74
    calls.

    River (board: 6d 7c 3h Td Th):

    shocker74 checks. PokerMan2210 bets 3500. shocker74
    calls.

    Showdown:

    PokerMan2210 shows Js Ah.
    PokerMan2210 has Js Ah 7c Td Th: a pair of tens.
    shocker74 shows 5c 3s.
    shocker74 has 3s 7c 3h Td Th: two pair, tens and threes.

    Hand #37173651-91 Summary:

    No rake is taken for this hand.
    shocker74 wins 11850 with two pair, tens and threes.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
  2. Rev.K Rev.K is offline

    Calgary
    Canada

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    Nov 26th, 2006 (11/26/2006 5:54pm) in reply to Bruce2210

    Obviously this guy is pretty loose, or crazy, or both. But in the end, I think your play wasn't all that solid.

    1. Your pre-flop raise is perfectly reasonable.

    2. Your raise after the flop is also reasonable, given that he's a loose player, you may be able to shove him off.

    3.The turn is where you started to go wrong. The 10 didn't help you and he's already shown that he has no problem withcheck-calling.You shouldn't have tried to take the pot here, his call won't give you any new information and your hand hasn't improved. Just take the free card.

    4. Again, the river doesn't help you and possibly makes his hand a complete lock. The only hand you have any chance of beating is a complete bluff (which isn't totally impossible,given how loose he is).He's shown the whole way that he will not be shoved off this hand,so betting here is out of the question.

    Tough hand for you, for sure. But you could have minimized the damage.
  3. SteveM SteveM is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2006 (11/27/2006 5:18am) in reply to Bruce2210

    First of all, I have to say that it is almost never worth trying to bluff loose crazy players, there is just no profit in it. Wait until you have a hand, and let him pay you off.

    Second point is if you put him on a draw, what hand did you put him on. If he had the 89, it got there on the turn.

    Third point is, if you put him on nothing but a busted draw then you should not have tried to bluff on the river, instead you would have been value betting Ace high.
  4. Jackspub Jackspub is offline

    Ozone Park, NY
    United States

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    Nov 27th, 2006 (11/27/2006 7:44am) in reply to Bruce2210

    rev.k says it all i argree 100 percent with him
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