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  1. I got cussed by the player that lost this hand... He went off on me saying how bad a Play I made.. I disagree... I look forward to see others opinions of this hand.

    Stage #516332380 Tourney ID 5937095 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 1,000 - 2011-01-10 10:53:00 (ET)
    Table: 31 (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
    Seat 1 - BLAZEN (9,688 in chips)
    Seat 2 - WATERFOWLER6 (32,459 in chips)
    Seat 3 - SLONER (8,665 in chips)
    Seat 4 - ATEOMORALES (31,555 in chips)
    Seat 5 - POKERAAAA111 (30,427 in chips)
    Seat 6 - SPINNINGMULE (15,277 in chips)
    Seat 7 - FATBOY3939 (5,995 in chips)
    Seat 8 - DJFERTIG (23,158 in chips)
    Seat 9 - HERBIE2 (17,760 in chips)
    BLAZEN - Ante 100
    WATERFOWLER6 - Ante 100
    SLONER - Ante 100
    ATEOMORALES - Ante 100
    POKERAAAA111 - Ante 100
    SPINNINGMULE - Ante 100
    FATBOY3939 - Ante 100
    DJFERTIG - Ante 100
    HERBIE2 - Ante 100
    WATERFOWLER6 - Posts small blind 500
    SLONER - Posts big blind 1,000
    *** POCKET CARDS ***
    Dealt to DJFERTIG [Kc Ah]
    ATEOMORALES - Folds
    POKERAAAA111 - Folds
    SPINNINGMULE - Calls 1,000
    FATBOY3939 - Folds
    DJFERTIG - Raises 3,000 to 3,000
    HERBIE2 - Folds
    BLAZEN - Folds
    WATERFOWLER6 - Calls 2,500
    SLONER - Folds
    SPINNINGMULE - Calls 2,000
    *** FLOP *** [8c Jc 5c]
    WATERFOWLER6 - Checks
    SPINNINGMULE - All-In 12,177
    DJFERTIG - All-In(Raise) 20,058 to 20,058
    WATERFOWLER6 - Folds
    DJFERTIG - returned (7,881) : not called
    *** TURN *** [8c Jc 5c] [3d]
    *** RIVER *** [8c Jc 5c 3d] [4c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SPINNINGMULE - Shows [Qd 10d] (queen high)
    DJFERTIG - Shows [Kc Ah] (Flush, king high)
    DJFERTIG Collects 35,254 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total Pot(35,254)
    Board [8c Jc 5c 3d 4c]
    Seat 1: BLAZEN (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 2: WATERFOWLER6 (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
    Seat 3: SLONER (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 4: ATEOMORALES Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 5: POKERAAAA111 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 6: SPINNINGMULE HI:lost with queen high [Qd 10d - P:Qd,B:Jc,P:10d,B:8c,B:5c]
    Seat 7: FATBOY3939 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Seat 8: DJFERTIG won Total (35,254) All-In HI:(35,254) with Flush, king high [Kc Ah - P:Kc,B:Jc,B:8c,B:5c,B:4c]
    Seat 9: HERBIE2 Folded on the POCKET CARDS

    I mean when the Money goes in I am winning period... I felt he was making a bluff move and I was right...yet this guy WENT OFF!!! I can't see how I could or should have played this different.
  2. Ok, so a guy who limp-calls QT for 20% of his stack and then bluff-shoves the rest on a completely whiffed three-way raised danger flop accuses you of playing the hand badly.
  3. i dont think its so bad, my only concern is that water is still to act. but taking him out of the equation i think id call that shove all the time

    there are some hands that we dont wana see like a flopped flush or AcJx but hes gona show up with a naked Ac, a week pr, or a bluff often enough for us to call a pot sized shove
     
  4.  
    Originally Posted by Trembath29 View Post

    Ok, so a guy who limp-calls QT for 20% of his stack and then bluff-shoves the rest on a completely whiffed three-way raised danger flop accuses you of playing the hand badly.

    Yes That is what I thought but this guy stayed for like 5 minutes just going off.... I thought it was a no brainer

     
    Originally Posted by okse54 View Post

    i dont think its so bad, my only concern is that water is still to act. but taking him out of the equation i think id call that shove all the time

    there are some hands that we dont wana see like a flopped flush or AcJx but hes gona show up with a naked Ac, a week pr, or a bluff often enough for us to call a pot sized shove

    That is why I moved all-in instead of just flat because I wanted Water to go away... Once Water goes away I think I am winning most of the time and I I am up against AC Jx I still feel like I have outs but most of the time i will be winning so play seems pretty standard to me
    Thread Starter
  5. Its a good flop for him to bluff, but with 2 players in he's making a risky shove....I reshove here and like it....Holding the Kc def helps as well.