Dude you have two different problems. You think she objects to gambling, it sounds like SHE objects to the time away (even in another room). My wife has complained (pretty gently) about time away also, but she's firmly in my camp now that I've committed to shipping her 10% of my GROSS tourney winnings for a back to school fund. She wants to get her masters in education.

Come up with some goal that she can be part of. Vacation, party, whatever. THis is more important than whether or not you are "gambling"

Scott

Girls and poker do not mix

Show her your stats and include her in your winnings. My wife hated me being out to all times of the morning playing cards. I play some online but mostly live at underground rooms. 2xs monthly I give her a cut depending on what I make and after bills are paid. It keeps house at peace. I work a full time job and put in about 25hrs per live Wed-Sat. Sun-Tues is family time and no live poker but I sneak in occasional tourney when she sleeps.

you cant.

just like i cant explain it to my parents.

I would think that if you can't show here the profits then you are gambling. Think about it. Letting it interfer with your family time is another matter.

it is gambling

I would also suggest teaching her the game. If she has any understanding of math she'll figure it out pretty quickly.

 

Originally Posted by smheilbron

it is gambling

What he said.

You have to think of a simile for none poker players, something like this:

If you're the best in your town at answering questions in a quiz, this no doubt means you know the answers to more questions than everyone else. Therefore, you'll be a favourite everytime time you sit down with them, how strong a favourite depends on how many more answers you have than your opponent does. Now, over a quiz of 1000 questions, you'll be a substantial favourite, because the volume of potential questions you know the answers to will be higher. However, if the the quiz contains only 10 questions, your edge will decrease, and while you will still be a favourite, you won't be a clear favourite for obvious reasons.

So basically in a small sample (say 1 session playing poker), you'll be a slight favourite over weaker opponents, because you have more answers than they do, but during that given session, it may occur that the questions you have the answers to are not asked, but the questions your opponents have the answer to are.

This is more an example of varience, but none poker players have the most trouble understanding varience. They see you win $1000 one week, then lose $600 the following week, and will come to the conclusion that you were merely lucky in week one, and unlucky in week two, and with luck being 50/50 (you are either lucky or unlucky) they then decide that your results will go either way every single day, purley because they fail to grasp the mathematics of probability.

However, I don't think you can 100% say poker is not a gamble, because it still is, as although odds generally are consistant, for instance, if you flipped a coin 10,000 times, the results should be pretty close to 50/50 heads or tails, it still doesn't mean they will definatley be. Or that age old thing of if you had an infinite number of monkeys bashing a computer for an infinite amount of time, the odds of them eventually typing the complete works of 'Shakesphere' without any mistakes would be very good. It would be mathematically probable but not mathematically certain.

But this holds true with anything in life.

"In the game of life women are the f*cking rake..."

struggle with this with an old girlfriend. she complained every night that i didnt "sleep" with her. we had already had sex so i would insta register for all the tourneys 10pm-12am. this always pissed her off, but then at the bar when i was buying her and everyone of her friends drinks all night then she had no complaints. or nice dinners, presents, etc. glad i dont have to deal with her anymore.

leave her and let her marry some schmuck who spends all of his time with her, but is broke as a joke.

 

Originally Posted by thegreenmean

How can you explain to Wife poker is not gambling? I have been a winning player with good ROI. She says it takes time away from us. Which it does sometimes. Any thoughts.......

Spend more time with her. Poker is a consuming game, and if your competitive like me you need to keep yourself in check.

Onto the gambling part. Create a proper record keeping system which you update regularly with how much you have taken out of the site and how much you have put in. This will not only be good for you, but proof to her you aren't gambling away your morgage. Next, if you take money out regularly reward her - buy her dinner, a new dildo or something shiny. Remember although its your money your playing with, both of you are making a sacrafice of quality time so u can make a few extra $$$.

Also teach her to play if you can, then... one day you can play her HU 4 ROLLZ

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^^^^^^^What Chaz says. I married a poker player, and except for when it comes to take her daugther to soccer or remodeling the house, I can play anytime I want.
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It is gambling, and it does take a lot of time away from the family if you play any significant amount.