over the last month no one folds for me. i get 3 and 4 bet all day. i think if im getting 3 bet a lot, i should 4 bet lighter, tighten my range of opening hands, and be willing to call thier shoves ligther. im fine with that, my problem is im losing TONS of tourneys now to such crappy hands, where b4 i was getting the free chips 100% of the time....lets say i have AA everytime and they have 33 every time.. im 80/20 im still 20% to lose the tournament. .... and obvious most situations are around 60/40 like today i raised in the 1k ftops 6 max @ bb 500 on button to 1300 and the bb shoved 10,500, i snap called and he showed 57 suited and won....is there any way to avoid this situation? or am I just going to have to win all my tournaments by winning 5-10 60/40s? seems ridiculous and frustrating to go through of month of these monkeys trying to out play me.

i know how you feel, i been losing every 60/40 and flip lately... but im forced to have a lot of showdowns... seems tough.

i cant win.

andy mcleod during the sunday million was calling 3bets light and 4bet shoving almost every 3bet on him and was telling the table "dont 3bet me i will call"...seemed to work cuz after a suckout or 2 and a couple good hands holding the table is scared of him...something ive been messing with this week and ive built some huge stacks and gotten ppl to lay off me a little and youd be surprised at some of the shit you see ppl making moves on you with...aka metagame

 

Originally Posted by Ship Happens

 

Originally Posted by MrCasino

not to be complaining, very frustrated...i guess my what im saying is THATS HOW I DEFEND IT..but IS there an ALTERNATIVE way, to avoid having to play 60/40s wit these idiots?

i miss the days when i could take tournys seriously...theres so much money to be made if you have an account that isnt rigged. but anyway....

you want 60/40s. you have a pretty good if not great account so ull be winning a ton of tournys very shortly.

what do you suggest if we have a shit account?

 

Originally Posted by sprstoner

 

Originally Posted by Ship Happens

 

Originally Posted by MrCasino

not to be complaining, very frustrated...i guess my what im saying is THATS HOW I DEFEND IT..but IS there an ALTERNATIVE way, to avoid having to play 60/40s wit these idiots?

i miss the days when i could take tournys seriously...theres so much money to be made if you have an account that isnt rigged. but anyway....

you want 60/40s. you have a pretty good if not great account so ull be winning a ton of tournys very shortly.

what do you suggest if we have a shit account?

do like i did and switch to cash games

please tell me you are not serious about "shit accounts"

 

Originally Posted by MrCasino

over the last month no one folds for me. i get 3 and 4 bet all day. i think if im getting 3 bet a lot, i should 4 bet lighter, tighten my range of opening hands, and be willing to call thier shoves ligther. im fine with that, my problem is im losing TONS of tourneys now to such crappy hands, where b4 i was getting the free chips 100% of the time....lets say i have AA everytime and they have 33 every time.. im 80/20 im still 20% to lose the tournament. .... and obvious most situations are around 60/40 like today i raised in the 1k ftops 6 max @ bb 500 on button to 1300 and the bb shoved 10,500, i snap called and he showed 57 suited and won....is there any way to avoid this situation? or am I just going to have to win all my tournaments by winning 5-10 60/40s? seems ridiculous and frustrating to go through of month of these monkeys trying to out play me.

Possibly tighten up a bit? I find myself nowadays trapping a lot more, getting people to bet for me, cause you know they are going to keep firing and firing.

thanks to those that reply with strategy, anxious to read others...and i agree with that one guy, plz stop making bogus statements/jokes/bad beats stories...this is instended to hear indept strat, not "i run bad" its happening to me too....i "ran good" by winnin a lot of tourneys first 6 month of the yr, so not complaining overall....just want to know what people think cause i used to get respect, now i get none, and im just hoping theres a way to keep using my huge edge in tourneys, instead of just dumbing it down and being happy with callin all in ahead 60/40...

thats good...and i agree with that, as i am....just sux that it has to come to that you know? like sucks to have to play good for 2hrs, 5hrs, 7 hrs, n then virtually flip for it

op ur just not that good

sorry

this is kinda like asking if you can impregnate a woman if your sperm count is 0.

 

Originally Posted by Andy McLEOD

this is kinda like asking if you can impregnate a woman if your sperm count is 0.

pfft like u know anything about that.

<blockquote> <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td class="P5_Quote_Author"> MrCasino:</td><td></td></tr></table>
thanks to those that reply with strategy, anxious to read others...and i agree with that one guy, plz stop making bogus statements/jokes/bad beats stories...this is instended to hear indept strat, not "i run bad" its happening to me too....i "ran good" by winnin a lot of tourneys first 6 month of the yr, so not complaining overall....just want to know what people think cause i used to get respect, now i get none, and im just hoping theres a way to keep using my huge edge in tourneys, instead of just dumbing it down and being happy with callin all in ahead 60/40...

seems like the more known u get the less respect u get. know one knows who i am :( and still dont respect me lol</blockquote>

Im veering off here but whatever. I've noticed all the talk concerning strategy over the last couple of years switch from a tag to a lag strategy being the best. All the best young players were applying a lag style to their game and seeing great results. People realized this and lag became the style of the day. Now everyone is playing this loose aggresive almost maniac style. Im in no way a good poker player but I would think the best way to counteract this would be to apply a tag/ trapping style to your game. I see it going in cycles . Right now playing a lag style is the preferred choice. Eventually there will be tons of maniacs and the best players will counter it with a tag style. then eventually people will realize this and a tag style will be the preferred strategy. Then after that runs it cycle and play becomes so tight its ridiculous a lag style will once again take over. It's just gonna go back and forth

this is a good thread