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How do I play this hand? AQo in BB

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  1. Maximus020202 Maximus020202 is offline

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    Mar 25th, 2010 (3/25/2010 4:08pm)

    pokerstars Game #41697358043: Tournament #303010514, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/03/25 21:02:09 CET [2010/03/25 16:02:09 ET]
    Table '303010514 111' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: lipta23 (15820 in chips)
    Seat 2: cpldick (2729 in chips)
    Seat 3: Maximus0202 (5575 in chips)
    Seat 4: lulopoker (9175 in chips)
    Seat 5: H.Bogesz (10598 in chips)
    Seat 6: malesko (13650 in chips)
    Seat 7: Zerberus12 (13766 in chips)
    Seat 8: KUBCIOR23 (5400 in chips)
    Seat 9: dusiek77 (6217 in chips)
    Maximus0202: posts small blind 100
    lulopoker: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Maximus0202 [Qc Ad]
    H.Bogesz: folds
    malesko: folds
    Zerberus12: folds
    KUBCIOR23: folds
    dusiek77: folds
    lipta23: raises 200 to 400
    cpldick: folds
    Maximus0202: calls 300
    lulopoker: folds
    *** FLOP *** [8s Qs 2s]
    Maximus0202: checks
    lipta23: bets 800
    Maximus0202: raises 1600 to 2400
    lipta23: raises 13020 to 15420 and is all-in
    Maximus0202: calls 2775 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (10245) returned to lipta23
    *** TURN *** [8s Qs 2s] [9c]
    *** RIVER *** [8s Qs 2s 9c] [9h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Maximus0202: shows [Qc Ad] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
    lipta23: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
    lipta23 collected 11350 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 11350 | Rake 0
    Board [8s Qs 2s 9c 9h]
    Seat 1: lipta23 showed [Ks Kc] and won (11350) with two pair, Kings and Nines
    Seat 2: cpldick (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Maximus0202 (small blind) showed [Qc Ad] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
    Seat 4: lulopoker (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: H.Bogesz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: malesko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Zerberus12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: KUBCIOR23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    How should I've played this hand?

    thanks
  2. JimmyMac20 JimmyMac20 is offline

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    Mar 25th, 2010 (3/25/2010 6:25pm) in reply to Maximus020202

    OK, i can get on board calling from the SB preflop.

    On the flop i hate your checkraise. Either lead bet or check fold.
  3. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 3:02am) in reply to JimmyMac20

    I'm probably just 3 bet/calling pre. I'm never flatting pre with your stack and folding top pair, even on this board. And not sure what above poster was talking about, check/raising is best here. You're getting a free bet when villain misses and cont. bets anyways and and you're also putting villain in a position where you're playing a bigger pot and allowing villain to make mistakes calling with draws, smaller queens, and 99/tt/jj hands. I guess you could just call the flop with the intention of bet/calling any brick turn but check/shoving is probably better.
     
  4. Juanda 87 Juanda 87 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 7:47am) in reply to rivverkiller

    3 bing/call shove pre seems a bit marginal vs a good player it was on a 2x open, and you have 22bbs left, I don't mind the flat if he is decent, unlucky flop. Might want to lead out if he doesn't c/b often though, giving free cards here isn't smart and you might miss value on any Q's you have outkicked if it comes a scare card on the turn. However, if he puts out a dead-money c/b 90% of the time, the c/r is a good line.
  5. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 12:35pm) in reply to Maximus020202

    First off, I would rather raise this preflop. I hate putting your money in and then quickly folding a good hand when you miss. What do you do on a 8-4-2 rainbow board, check fold? So, I would rather raise it preflop. Then, if he pushes, you might get away from it (if he's been aggressive, then you might be getting it in there.

    Once the Queen hits, not sure what to do, I like the check/raise myself. Unlucky he has KK here.

    Though, what sucks here is that, if you hit the queen, you pay him off, if you hit the ace, he's not paying you off (unless he hits too). It's why I like reraising pre, it gives you a chance to get a feeling for where your at (though, in these $3 games, AQ versus a big stack KK is really a cooler, hard to get away from it, when so many people will play A7 the same way).
  6. JimmyMac20 JimmyMac20 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 8:16pm) in reply to rivverkiller

    River, a C/R on this board is akin to suicide.

    I suppose if the guy is a robot and has no idea of what flop is safe to C/B then you could argue the point, but if he puts chips into the pot here we're just pot commiting ourselves without a spade in our hand.

    We don't want to play a big pot with only a single pair and no flush draw here.

    Clearly the lead bet is better than the C/R. If we infact are ahead we prevent a free card and also extract value.
  7. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2010 (3/26/2010 10:43pm) in reply to JimmyMac20

     
    Originally Posted by JimmyMac20 View Post

    River, a C/R on this board is akin to suicide.

    I suppose if the guy is a robot and has no idea of what flop is safe to C/B then you could argue the point, but if he puts chips into the pot here we're just pot commiting ourselves without a spade in our hand.

    We don't want to play a big pot with only a single pair and no flush draw here.

    Clearly the lead bet is better than the C/R. If we infact are ahead we prevent a free card and also extract value.

    Are you bet/folding or bet/calling the flop? And lol at giving a random in a $3 tourney credit for being a good player. And we're not playing a "big pot" as we only have like 27 bbs. In ~10 minutes we're going to have 20bbs with antes. I don't think bet/calling is bad here, but bet/folding is retarded. I'd even dig chk/calling the flop with the intention of bet/calling a blank on the turn
     
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