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how do you play 10s in BB,wit a bazillion limpers?

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  1. Fear Le55 Fear Le55 is offline

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    Jun 27th, 2007 (6/27/2007 11:06pm)

    how do u play pocket 10s in the big blind with like 6 limpers in the pot. the blinds are 15/30, 10 person sng on stars. the results are in white font, so u have to highlight it. yes i think i played the flop bad, thats cus i dont know how to play this hand in this position. please help.

    pokerstars Game #10655832809: Tournament #53986060, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/06/27 - 22:49:56 (ET)
    Table '53986060 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: Fear Le55 (1490 in chips)
    Seat 2: 2 recycle (1820 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 3: RipSk8 (1130 in chips)
    Seat 4: manguydude21 (1380 in chips)
    Seat 5: painel1975 (1190 in chips)
    Seat 6: rnd66 (2240 in chips)
    Seat 8: Zoester6 (1900 in chips)
    Seat 9: djets1 (2680 in chips)
    Seat 10: RVM1M (1170 in chips)
    RVM1M: posts small blind 15
    Fear Le55: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Fear Le55 [Td Ts]
    2 recycle: folds
    Fear Le55 said, "kings"
    RipSk8: calls 30
    manguydude21: folds
    Fear Le55 said, "i know you got"
    painel1975: calls 30
    rnd66: calls 30
    Zoester6: calls 30
    djets1: calls 30
    RVM1M: folds
    Fear Le55: raises 270 to 300
    RipSk8: calls 270
    painel1975: folds
    rnd66: folds
    Zoester6: calls 270
    djets1: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 6d 9d]
    Fear Le55: bets 400
    RipSk8: raises 430 to 830 and is all-in
    Zoester6: calls 830
    Fear Le55: calls 430
    *** TURN *** [Qc 6d 9d] [3h]
    Fear Le55: checks
    Zoester6: checks
    *** RIVER *** [Qc 6d 9d 3h] [8d]
    2 recycle has returned
    Fear Le55: bets 360 and is all-in
    Zoester6: calls 360
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Fear Le55: shows [Td Ts] (a pair of Tens)
    Zoester6: shows [Jd Kd] (a flush, King high)
    Zoester6 collected 720 from side pot
    RipSk8: shows [9h 4h] (a pair of Nines)
    Zoester6 collected 3495 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4215 Main pot 3495. Side pot 720. | Rake 0
    Board [Qc 6d 9d 3h 8d]
    Seat 1: Fear Le55 (big blind) showed [Td Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens
    Seat 2: 2 recycle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: RipSk8 showed [9h 4h] and lost with a pair of Nines
    Seat 4: manguydude21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: painel1975 folded before Flop
    Seat 6: rnd66 folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Zoester6 showed [Jd Kd] and won (4215) with a flush, King high
    Seat 9: djets1 (button) folded before Flop
    Seat 10: RVM1M (small blind) folded before Flop
  2. Schlik20 Schlik20 is offline

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    Jun 27th, 2007 (6/27/2007 11:16pm) in reply to Fear Le55

    limp along... blinds are so small there is no point in raising...YOU MUST HIT in order to take one down in a 3.40...
  3. LIPOKER LIPOKER is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 9:10am) in reply to Schlik20

    imo i think your raise to 300 is good, its telling the table hey i have something plus you dont really risk too much, you can always toss it if someone pulls the old limp re raise on you, The object of your raise is to obviously drive out the garbage but also to gauge how strong your hand is.
  4. LIPOKER LIPOKER is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 9:21am) in reply to LIPOKER

    but also in the same breath aomeone may think this is just a take down the pot move so as i re think it i may also limp in and try to flop the set and toss it if i miss , there are too many ways for you to lose,and its better to lose 30 than 300
  5. capacehigh capacehigh is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 1:45pm) in reply to Fear Le55

    Pocket 10's are tricky, especially with several limpers ahead of you. However, at the 3.40 level, probably alot of the limpers are limping with weak or drawing hands and will be driven out by your bet. I like the bet.

    I can understand calling in hopes of making a set on the flop and saving yourself the chips, if it's a low pocket pair say (<88). But with pocket 10's, and all limpers ahead of you, there's a good chance that you've got the best preflop hand. The bet you made does 2 things: 1) isolates the competition to just those with good preflop holdings, 2) sends the message that you've got a real hand (unless you've been raising big with a bunch of limpers consistently beforehand) and gives you the possibility of scooping up the pot preflop uncontested (remember, sometimes: "it's better to win a small pot than to lose a big one").

    The only part of this hand I would question is your check on the Turn. I would think that at the Turn, if you check and are willing to call an all-in for the rest of your chips on the River that you'd want to push all-in on the Turn. Maybe that bet drives him away from his hopes of catching his flush. Maybe not, but at least you're the aggressor and he's got to react to it. Plus, when you check, you're letting him see the River for free.
  6. kmil420 kmil420 is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 1:46pm) in reply to LIPOKER

    i would just go all in because people are more than happy to call of any % of their stack to peel a flop with a moderate hand. Your hand is best atm you can go AI and probably take it down there or maybe get called by a worse hand.
  7. Shaaarrrp Shaaarrrp is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 2:04pm) in reply to LIPOKER

    I dont see how you can say that 300 chips isnt risking very much.  It's 10 bbs and a good part of his stack.  Not to mention the continuation bet hes almost certainly gonna have to make while out of position.  IMO, blinds are way too low to make the raise to 300 necessary or profitable.   I would limp along and hope to hit a big flop and get paid off. If a bunch of overs come and you gotta fold, its not a huge deal-you have plenty of chips in relation to the BB and TT isnt that great.  IMO, pushing preflop or raising like 900 p reflop (committing yourself to the pot) is much mu ch 
    better than throwing in 1/5 your stack out of position with TT and hoping for a safe flop.
     
  8. kmil420 kmil420 is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 2:27pm) in reply to capacehigh

    " Pocket 10's are tricky, especially with several limpers ahead of you. However, at the 3.40 level, probably alot of the limpers are limping with weak or drawing hands and will be driven out by your bet. I like the bet."

    The point is that this seemingly huge raise will not get people off the pot at these levels. Look at the donk who was in the hand with 94 s00ted. There is no need to make this huge commiting raise right here because you WILL get called by a few of the limpers. Thats why I would 10% of the time limp and just hope for a good flop or 90% of the time go all-in. You will take it down uncontested most of the time and sometimes get called by some donk who is dominated.
  9. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 3:43pm) in reply to kmil420

    Limp along and hope to flop a set or tread carefully on a 7 high board. If blinds were 25/50 say I might just push.

    A raise to $300 is horrible in this spot IMO
     
  10. sotti sotti is offline

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    Jun 28th, 2007 (6/28/2007 4:06pm) in reply to Fear Le55

    Haven't looked at the results.

    But there are two options, limp along as stated above.

    The other option is to raise, but I think a raise to 150 would be sufficient. The first couple limpers aren't going to be getting great odds to call, and the people that fold with hands they limp with to a big raise will fold, and people that won't fold, might not fold to a 500 chip raise. Also as mentioned above with a smaller pot your C-bet from out of position (assuming a safe enough flop) will be smaller.
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