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how do you proceed here w/ KK on turn vs rookieqq9?

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  1. poisoneye1986 poisoneye1986 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 1:11pm)

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    Full Tilt Poker Game #13769832762: $18,500 Guarantee (101482825), Table 39 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:39:45 ET - 2009/08/02

    Seat 1: Calm Down Sir (3,862)

    Seat 2: benvo123 (2,135)

    Seat 3: 3 man (3,420)

    Seat 4: davePmorris (1,923)

    Seat 5: poisoneye1986 (3,370)

    Seat 6: therookieqq9 (3,290)

    Calm Down Sir posts the small blind of 25

    benvo123 posts the big blind of 50

    The button is in seat #6

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to poisoneye1986 [Kd Kh]

    3 man folds

    davePmorris folds

    poisoneye1986 raises to 150

    therookieqq9 calls 150

    Calm Down Sir folds

    benvo123 folds

    *** FLOP *** [Jc Qc 9s]

    poisoneye1986 has 15 seconds left to act

    poisoneye1986 bets 250

    therookieqq9 has 15 seconds left to act

    therookieqq9 calls 250

    *** TURN *** [Jc Qc 9s] [Jd]

    poisoneye1986 - I had opened a decent amount preflop but have been showing mostly strong hands at showdown and havent gotten all aggressive post flop when i have missed.

    his call otf looks like its only a Queen or a flush draw, w/ this dangerous of a board i think hes raising all straights/2 pair/set/combodraws.

    whats best? i ranked my best plays according to this: check/raise> bet/call> bet/fold> check/fold> check/call
    it was sunday if that plays into his hand at all.</SPAN>
  2. wck117 wck117 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 1:34pm) in reply to poisoneye1986

    how is check folding better than check calling?
  3. bluffslv bluffslv is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 2:14pm) in reply to wck117

    bet call. Most people will probably check behind with a queen, or depending how he plays draws might take the free card. 100% not folding and I don't want to give the free card.
  4. BLUEberLEEZ BLUEberLEEZ is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 2:39pm) in reply to poisoneye1986

     
    Originally Posted by poisoneye1986 View Post

    <SPAN lang=EN>
    Full Tilt Poker Game #13769832762: $18,500 Guarantee (101482825), Table 39 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:39:45 ET - 2009/08/02

    Seat 1: Calm Down Sir (3,862)

    Seat 2: benvo123 (2,135)

    Seat 3: 3 man (3,420)

    Seat 4: davePmorris (1,923)

    Seat 5: poisoneye1986 (3,370)

    Seat 6: therookieqq9 (3,290)

    Calm Down Sir posts the small blind of 25

    benvo123 posts the big blind of 50

    The button is in seat #6

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to poisoneye1986 [Kd Kh]

    3 man folds

    davePmorris folds

    poisoneye1986 raises to 150

    therookieqq9 calls 150

    Calm Down Sir folds

    benvo123 folds

    *** FLOP *** [Jc Qc 9s]

    poisoneye1986 has 15 seconds left to act

    poisoneye1986 bets 250

    therookieqq9 has 15 seconds left to act

    therookieqq9 calls 250

    *** TURN *** [Jc Qc 9s] [Jd]

    poisoneye1986 - I had opened a decent amount preflop but have been showing mostly strong hands at showdown and havent gotten all aggressive post flop when i have missed.

    This is irrelevant I think. At this point people are just playing their hands. You're not getting floated by any decent players at the 25/50 blind level.

    his call otf looks like its only a Queen or a flush draw, w/ this dangerous of a board i think hes raising all straights/2 pair/set/combodraws.

    His range is a lot wider than this; AQ, KQ, QT, AJ, KJ, JT, AT, KT, 9T,all pocket pairs except QQ/JJ/99 (lotta ppl are gonna call ur bet on this flop with any pair to see if u have AK)

    whats best? i ranked my best plays according to this: check/raise> bet/call> bet/fold> check/fold> check/call

    Check/raise and bet/call are both turribad. Bet/fold is OK, but it's kinda retarded to not play the hand so that you get to showdown. Check/fold is obvoiusly dumb. I like check on the turn for pot control. You get added value on the riv from top pair hands that aren't going to call a triple barrel. Plus if you bet the turn, the pot is way bigger than you want on this board with KK early on.

    it was sunday if that plays into his hand at all

    Nope. </SPAN>

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  5. MastaP89 MastaP89 is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 2:48pm) in reply to BLUEberLEEZ

    blueberleez so your calling the turn? what do you do if villian checks behind? value bet river i guess? also what do you do if villian bets turn bets river? check/call turn check/fold river?

    it also depends on the river cards im speaking about blanks mostly
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  6. BLUEberLEEZ BLUEberLEEZ is offline

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    Aug 3rd, 2009 (8/3/2009 2:52pm) in reply to MastaP89

     
    Originally Posted by MastaP89 View Post

    blueberleez so your calling the turn? what do you do if villian checks behind? value bet river i guess? also what do you do if villian bets turn bets river? check/call turn check/fold river?

    it also depends on the river cards im speaking about blanks mostly

    Check/calling the turn for sure. If he checks behind I make a 1/2 pot sized bet on river, probably fold if he raises.

    But it's highly unlikely he raises river bc he would have to have a boat or a straight, at worst. Boat is unlikely since he doesn't have a pocket pair, and he would have raised two pair on the flop. If he has KT, he's probably not reraising on a paired board.
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