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How else can I rep a K here?

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  1. Seanallin99 Seanallin99 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 7:40pm)

    Any thoughts? Thought I did everything I could to represent a K here...

    pokerstars Game #15269300293: Tournament #77345095, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/02/13 - 20:14:01 (ET)
    Table '77345095 11' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: pat.mid (3690 in chips)
    Seat 3: Pecky89 (5025 in chips)
    Seat 4: tron1921 (1505 in chips)
    Seat 5: JicJacJohnsN (8795 in chips)
    Seat 6: Seanallin99 (5040 in chips)
    Seat 7: JonWlkerBlak (4810 in chips)
    Seat 8: ksuglennj (4695 in chips)
    Seat 9: VaswaniCheck (2450 in chips)
    JicJacJohnsN: posts small blind 75
    Seanallin99: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Seanallin99 [Tc Jc]
    Pecky89 said, "yeah im gonna for a bit"
    JonWlkerBlak: folds
    ksuglennj: folds
    briggs1628 is connected
    VaswaniCheck: folds
    pat.mid: folds
    Pecky89: folds
    Pecky89 is sitting out
    tron1921: folds
    JicJacJohnsN: raises 300 to 450
    Seanallin99: calls 300
    *** FLOP *** [3c 9h Kd]
    JicJacJohnsN: checks
    Seanallin99: bets 450
    JicJacJohnsN: calls 450
    *** TURN *** [3c 9h Kd] [Ks]
    JicJacJohnsN: bets 450
    Seanallin99: raises 750 to 1200
    JicJacJohnsN: calls 750
    *** RIVER *** [3c 9h Kd Ks] [2h]
    JicJacJohnsN: checks
    Seanallin99: bets 1350
    JicJacJohnsN: calls 1350
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Seanallin99: shows [Tc Jc] (a pair of Kings)
    JicJacJohnsN: shows [Td Th] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
    JicJacJohnsN collected 6900 from pot
     
  2. moman1965 moman1965 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 8:48pm) in reply to Seanallin99

    Ummmm, you ran into a calling station! You could of had pocket kings and he wouldn't of folded!!! Well played, but at low level SNG's these guys don't know how to fold so play a little tighter. You can't bluff these guys, they are too stupid to fold!!
  3. JicJacJohnsN JicJacJohnsN is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 9:06pm) in reply to Seanallin99

    Ok sean.
    The reason that i felt you didnt have a King was:
    1. You smooth called the raise pre flop. I felt like i had a pretty loose image and you probably would have fired back pre-flop with any hand better than random.
    2. Your bet after i checked it to you after the flop i thought was extremely weak and to me at that point meant a monster or air.
    3. when the King came on the turn, i just felt like you for sure didnt have one. I didnt think you had QQ so i felt like my tt was the best. I thought really that you had J9.

    Dont take it personal. I made a decent read and went with it.

    And for the retarded comment by the idiot. You tell me what line you would have took here.

    -JicJac
  4. JicJacJohnsN JicJacJohnsN is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 9:16pm) in reply to moman1965

    "Well played" with air huh MO?
    Your stats speak for themselves.
    unreal...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
  5. Seanallin99 Seanallin99 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 9:33pm) in reply to JicJacJohnsN

    Not taking it personal at all...just wanted your thougts...thanks.
     
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  6. Seanallin99 Seanallin99 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 9:35pm) in reply to Seanallin99

    as for my bet on the flop seemed weak...i bet half the pot...what other amount would i bet to not be weak?
     
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  7. JicJacJohnsN JicJacJohnsN is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 9:49pm) in reply to Seanallin99

    3/4 or higher probably would have been a better amount.
    I had extremely good pot odds to call that bet by calling 450 into an 1000 dollar pot. Had the bet been bigger and the pot odds not so good...i could have gotten away from the hand. When the second King came though it was really a bad card for you. statistically speaking the chances of you having one with 2 others out are slim (not impossible) so i really knew that TT was good at that point. I was looking to dodge any ace or nine after the turn because i felt like you could have A9 or J9.
    Hope this helps.
  8. odstore odstore is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 10:02pm) in reply to Seanallin99

    betting the same amount as the pf raise on the flop always looks weak imo
  9. Seanallin99 Seanallin99 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2008 (2/13/2008 10:04pm) in reply to JicJacJohnsN

    cool man...see you around.
     
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  10. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 11:16am) in reply to Seanallin99

    Well, JicJac will always know what he was thinking best, and his line of thoughts actually made sense.

    But, as a rule, representing hands at a $4 game is difficult if not impossible. I like the thought of betting the flop. Once he leads out on the turn, I think you bail. He also called your hand.

    He just threw 1200 in the pot on the turn and 450 on the flop (after raising). That 2 isn't scaring anyone there, so why bet?

    For the most part, the only reps that seem to work are 4 card straights (if you only need a jack for a straight) or a flush. If anything, these might get too much respect at this level. However, representing a card shouldn't be done, nor should mutiple street bluffs.
  11. Bulldogmafia Bulldogmafia is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2008 (2/14/2008 1:59pm) in reply to JicJacJohnsN

    JicJacJohn- Good reply and analysis of your hand. Not sure I totally agree with point 1 but then I wasn't there for the build up of your image but point 2 & 3 nailed why he didn't rep a K.
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