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  1. suggestions??
    success stories
  2. what's your initial BR? Look up jennifear's article on BR management
  3. Once upon a time I had $300 on my PS account and made a challenge to turn 300 to 10k. Now I have much more. I started with 4.40 180 mans and micro mtts and moved up from there. Also learning to play 12 180 mans is a great way to boost a bankroll.
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  4.  
    Originally Posted by delinquent1 View Post

    what's your initial BR? Look up jennifear's article on BR management


    not sure where/what to search.. i'd appreciate a link if anyone gots easy access to it.
    thanks
  5. gracias
  6. My success is modest(so far) compared to many. I have had a history of having a small success and then taking shots at higher levels and having to deposit again. This time, I followed jennifear's article and it has been much different. I deposited $50 two months ago and had an initial goal of $1000. I have surpassed this and have done so by not playing anything that is more than 1/100th of my br. Good luck.
  7. I am at 8k now and started with 200 3 months ago. Just playing MTTs only with 100 byins. Just play sick volume.
  8. play good poker?
     
  9. withdraw your money

    put in bank

    intrest

    your welcome.
  10. A couple key things.

    1. Play better. Easiest way to increase your bankroll is to play better than your opponents.
    2. Bankroll management. Not always easy, but if you want to have a bankroll that lasts, practice this. Once you get to $5 and $10 MTT and above, play with at least 200 buy ins, if not 3-400.
    3. 90 person KO sng are a gold mine. Grind these.
    4. Withdraw on a consistent basis. set up a plan as to when you are going to withdraw money. This is key to reap some of the rewards of your work.

    My short story is this. I started with $50, never have redopsited, in 2003. Twice I have been low, once down to 300 in 2005, another time down to 500 in 2008. Both times rebuilding is key and same with bankroll management. The low stakes you should be able to rebuild in a decent amount of time. BR at 9k right now, although I do withdraw consistently.
     
  11. Do you guys recommend grinding the regular speed 90s instead of the turbo 90s? I don't mind turbo's to an extent and I'm decent regarding push/fold but if you're trying to build / rebuild a roll, better to stay away from turbos for less variance?
  12.  
    Originally Posted by bcdrmr View Post

    Do you guys recommend grinding the regular speed 90s instead of the turbo 90s? I don't mind turbo's to an extent and I'm decent regarding push/fold but if you're trying to build / rebuild a roll, better to stay away from turbos for less variance?

    personally i wouldnt advise ppl to play non turbo sngs. with turbos theres a higher turnover which allows you to play more per hour and its much easier to mass multitable as optimally as possible since theres much less post flop play. the increase in volume by playing turbos well outways the decrease in ROI and the higher variance imo.
     
  13. i turned $2.76 into 4,800 in 2 months playing SNGs. based my plan off of boku's $5 into $100k plan
  14.  
    Originally Posted by delinquent1 View Post

    what's your initial BR? Look up jennifear's article on BR management

    Bankroll at mo 250 was at 290 but had bad session playing too many tables was trying to play 8 tables and kept bubbling ($5 10 man dob sitngo) going to keep it to four tables at a time now. goal is to hit 500 before i move up to $10. I think this is a safe way to build but doesnt do anything for your post flop play. Once the blinds get high its either shove or fold. Would like to take a shot at some tourneys for a decent score, Any suggestions in the $5 range on stars.
    Thread Starter
  15. Key points to remember about BRM:

    The risk of ruin function proves that at any bankroll level, if you withdraw all of your profits therefore maintaining your bankroll at the same level, your risk of ruin is 100%. An example to clarify: say you play $4.40 180plr tourneys and have a bankroll of 100 buy-ins, and every time you exceed that level you withdraw back to 100 buy-ins. In the long run, you will lose your entire bankroll by following this strategy.

    There are two valid ways to avoid this problem. The first is to not withdraw your profits, which then gives you a relatively small risk of ruin if properly bankrolled. Of course, it also isn't an acceptable method if you're planning on using poker as an income. The second method is based on the Kelly criterion, and involves stepping down limits during downswings. Unfortunately it's impossible to do pure Kelly betting playing poker because buy-in levels are noncontinuous, but you can approximate it and have a very negligible risk of ruin while still being able to withdraw part of your winnings. This is basically the method that Jennifear recommends in her article, and I would definitely second that recommendation.

    The most important thing that I would keep in mind with regards to bankroll management is that it isn't just guesswork. It's all based in game theory and is well-proven. The Kelly criterion is used extensively in the finance field, as are other concepts that are used in poker (such as the Sharpe ratio, which is the reason that multitabling and swapping both decrease variance). A lot of players get the idea that BRM is just a guideline, and that if they don't follow it it's not a big deal. The simple fact is that poker is not profitable in the long term without following proper BRM. It's of significantly more importance than actual poker skill.
  16.  
    Originally Posted by Esarbe View Post

    i turned $2.76 into 4,800 in 2 months playing SNGs. based my plan off of boku's $5 into $100k plan

    where can u find that
  17.  
    Originally Posted by LPlates View Post

    Bankroll at mo 250 was at 290 but had bad session playing too many tables was trying to play 8 tables and kept bubbling ($5 10 man dob sitngo) going to keep it to four tables at a time now. goal is to hit 500 before i move up to $10. I think this is a safe way to build but doesnt do anything for your post flop play. Once the blinds get high its either shove or fold. Would like to take a shot at some tourneys for a decent score, Any suggestions in the $5 range on stars.

    9am EST on Stars is fairlty soft

     
    Originally Posted by Faded TV View Post

    Key points to remember about BRM:

    The risk of ruin function proves that at any bankroll level, if you withdraw all of your profits therefore maintaining your bankroll at the same level, your risk of ruin is 100%. An example to clarify: say you play $4.40 180plr tourneys and have a bankroll of 100 buy-ins, and every time you exceed that level you withdraw back to 100 buy-ins. In the long run, you will lose your entire bankroll by following this strategy.

    There are two valid ways to avoid this problem. The first is to not withdraw your profits, which then gives you a relatively small risk of ruin if properly bankrolled. Of course, it also isn't an acceptable method if you're planning on using poker as an income. The second method is based on the Kelly criterion, and involves stepping down limits during downswings. Unfortunately it's impossible to do pure Kelly betting playing poker because buy-in levels are noncontinuous, but you can approximate it and have a very negligible risk of ruin while still being able to withdraw part of your winnings. This is basically the method that Jennifear recommends in her article, and I would definitely second that recommendation.

    The most important thing that I would keep in mind with regards to bankroll management is that it isn't just guesswork. It's all based in game theory and is well-proven. The Kelly criterion is used extensively in the finance field, as are other concepts that are used in poker (such as the Sharpe ratio, which is the reason that multitabling and swapping both decrease variance). A lot of players get the idea that BRM is just a guideline, and that if they don't follow it it's not a big deal. The simple fact is that poker is not profitable in the long term without following proper BRM. It's of significantly more importance than actual poker skill.

    Well put sir...good stuff here!
  18.  
    Originally Posted by jusfoldf1sh View Post

    where can u find that

    http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/boku87/english/2009/meet-boku87-048056.html#more
  19. win?
  20. some great thoughts here. currently trying to grow my roll in a similar way. playing 18 sng turbos. have moved up from $1.75 to $3.40 and doing ok. bankroll is still growing. i feel keeping a positive attitude during this building process is the key. also jennifears BRM is the best. good luck to all having a go.
  21. i started my broll out by winning .40 cents on a freeroll built it up to over $100 now. the main thing you want to do is find a cash game your good at and can win at consistently. you want to mix cash games sngs and also mtts. you need to follow good broll management. a good way to earn your main and (safe) money is through cash games nd sngs (considering your a winning player) and this is how you get the money to play mtts. mtts have a lot of variance but with time and a lot of volume u can win consistenly. mtts are where the real money is if you can get close to or reach the final table. the payouts are huge and when you win big you feel great. hope this helps GL
  22. thanks to all great ideas
    Thread Starter
  23. I'm noticing how practically no one mentions to play any sort of cash games. Is this because of the swings or some unknown variable? If one decided that they were wanting to play cash games and can handle the swings, how much is appropriate to have behind them for say a 1/2 level. My guess is 2 grand? Thanks for input!
  24. Definately bankroll management, play 9man sngs or cash games to buid it up.
  25.  
    Originally Posted by okse54 View Post

    play good poker?

    I love your posts okse lol
  26. get all ur savings together and bet it all in one hand of blackjack... you got a 49% chance to double ur roll in 3 seconds.... those are way better odds for most poker players....
  27.  
    Originally Posted by MakeMeMaster View Post

    Once upon a time I had $300 on my PS account and made a challenge to turn 300 to 10k. Now I have much more. I started with 4.40 180 mans and micro mtts and moved up from there. Also learning to play 12 180 mans is a great way to boost a bankroll.

    12 tourneys at a time??? christ
    Thread Starter
  28.  
    Originally Posted by ChasinTheLastOut View Post

    I'm noticing how practically no one mentions to play any sort of cash games. Is this because of the swings or some unknown variable? If one decided that they were wanting to play cash games and can handle the swings, how much is appropriate to have behind them for say a 1/2 level. My guess is 2 grand? Thanks for input!

    This is essentially a tourney site, so generally BR responses are going to be based around MTT's. The usual response is "Whatever your a winner in, and play alot of it."

     
    Originally Posted by LPlates View Post

    12 tourneys at a time??? christ

    BAZINGA

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