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How much do you value your tourney life?

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  1. TheJunkie TheJunkie is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:00am)

    I know this is a pretty vague question, but I'm curious to know how much top players value their tourney lives. I've seen the topic briefly mentioned here or there, but no real discussions. Early? Middle? Late? stage. You can put whatever value on 1st that you think will help you give a good response. For this discussion, let's say that you are calling off your stack with a medium holding. What do you take into consideration?
     
  2. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:03am) in reply to TheJunkie

    They don't value it at all really...they think they have FE or it's +EV, they take it and say fk it.
  3. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:05am) in reply to bef99hwk

    thats why i suck. i bring a crash cart with me to the table
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:05am) in reply to TheJunkie

    I know its easy to say when you're not playing..but I honestly dont care about my "tourny life". It all comes down to whats profitable in the end. But naturally I think the deeper you get, the more people really "care" and value it, although that can be a huge leak.
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:07am) in reply to pokerpoker69

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.
     
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:07am) in reply to TheJunkie

    Generally, except for situations where the chips I risk are worth more than the chips I stand to gain, I put no value on my tournament life at all. I can't sell it on ebay, so it's worthless.
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:09am) in reply to SowersUNCC

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

    100% agree, bad players do the opposite, they don't give a shit in the beggining of the tournament and then you see the same LAG donkey scared to make a move on the money bubble.
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:14am) in reply to Jennifear

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    Generally, except for situations where the chips I risk are worth more than the chips I stand to gain, I put no value on my tournament life at all. I can't sell it on ebay, so it's worthless.

    ive seen some fucked up things get sold on ebay for big bucks though
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:15am) in reply to downbylaw11

    trying to get to the point where i value it less and less. then i will know i have covered a huge leak.
     
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:18am) in reply to Appst08

    my problem isnt that i overvalue my tournament life, but rather I'm never quite sure how much others value theirs
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:19am) in reply to downbylaw11

     
    Originally Posted by downbylaw11 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post


    Generally, except for situations where the chips I risk are worth more than the chips I stand to gain, I put no value on my tournament life at all. I can't sell it on ebay, so it's worthless.

    ive seen some fucked up things get sold on ebay for big bucks though

    It'd be a tough auction though. Would you try to sell it in advance or would you run the shortest auction ever? Maybe timebank to let you stretch the bidding a bit?
     
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:21am) in reply to SowersUNCC

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

    Does this explain ur A4o 3bet from bb hand in 320??
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:21am) in reply to Jennifear

     
    Originally Posted by Jennifear View Post

    I can't sell it on ebay, so it's worthless.

    hate to be THAT guy, but tell that to 1mperium
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:22am) in reply to Alex_Striker

    to play deveils advocate here, by saying you have "no Value" to tournament life, wouldnt that be saying you play more of a mathematical game than a feel or read dependent game? Saying you have a great read on someone and your behind on an all-in pre and its your decision to call, do you save the chips and say even though the math is right my chips, which in turn equals your life, is more valuable than the math ?
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:26am) in reply to SowersUNCC

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:27am) in reply to bef99hwk

     
    Originally Posted by bef99hwk View Post

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

    Does this explain ur A4o 3bet from bb hand in 320??

    No I've played so bad tonight but that situation was standard in my view that the guy had raises 100% of cutoff buttons and me 3 betting him was going to look so weak he should prolly shove a lot... and therefore I decided if i 3 bet in such an obv weak spot i would also have to call his 4 bet. But thx.
     
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:32am) in reply to SowersUNCC

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

     
    Originally Posted by bef99hwk View Post

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

    Does this explain ur A4o 3bet from bb hand in 320??

    No I've played so bad tonight but that situation was standard in my view that the guy had raises 100% of cutoff buttons and me 3 betting him was going to look so weak he should prolly shove a lot... and therefore I decided if i 3 bet in such an obv weak spot i would also have to call his 4 bet. But thx.

    JW cuz a friend sent me the hand asking ur guy's ranges in this situation and altho I said ur wide, I didn't imagine quite that wide, and wondered why you'd 3bet/call there when ur likely 3 outs??? So u r saying it was a value raise thinking he'd ship stuff like JT and KQ, etc? JW :]
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:44am) in reply to bef99hwk

    ya usually these small aces are sometimes good for restealing because you have an ace blocker and u know their range is pretty wide, although i would never recommend raise/calling like i did in this hand, was jus getting kinda tired and last tourny left and gooood night san diego
     
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 1:06am) in reply to SowersUNCC

    whats tourny life?
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 1:09am) in reply to SowersUNCC

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

    at what point does later start?
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 1:55am) in reply to TheJunkie

    lol, most of the time, im just ready to bust my tourneys and get the day over with
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 2:00am) in reply to TheJunkie

    I don't have a life, i play poker for a living.
     
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 4:00am) in reply to bef99hwk

     
    Originally Posted by bef99hwk View Post

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

    Does this explain ur A4o 3bet from bb hand in 320??

    Dude sometimes I just don't know what the Phuck is wrong with you.
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 4:28am) in reply to scarface_79

     
    Originally Posted by scarface_79 View Post

    lol, most of the time, im just ready to bust my tourneys and get the day over with

    sigh, me too.
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 8:22am) in reply to SowersUNCC

     
    Originally Posted by SowersUNCC View Post

    the trick is to care earlier and not care later, imo.

    True!
    I believe that I need to start caring a little bit more through the middle stages though. Wasting a good stack trying to get a huge stack has been the trend lately.
     
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 8:44am) in reply to TheJunkie

    I do agree with those saying more earlier on and less later on. Or in other words. Aim to get into the endgame as often as possible (endgame being defined as money x 2 roughly), then open up more to exploit others tightening up and to get into a good position (if you're not already there) and stay there. Of course you have to be in it to win it so playing plain odds every opportunity might not be the best strategy for profit.
     
  27. TiltinShoes TiltinShoes is offline

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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 9:33am) in reply to TheJunkie

    I don't value my tournament life even a little. I value top finishes. I'm not a top pro but I think it is the same for them.
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:15pm) in reply to Pghfan987

    I agree with sowers 100%
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 12:43pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    I think caring a little too much about my tourney life on the FT bubble/final2-3 tables was a main component in me going out 1st on this final table :(

    $300 buy-in, FTOPS Event #21 on FullTiltPoker. 02/13/2009, 8 place for 2,569.50
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    Mar 19th, 2009 (3/19/2009 2:47pm) in reply to TheJunkie

    It's not about caring/not caring about tourney life the whole game is about trying to make the most +$EV decisions in every situation obv.
     
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