This is prob. the 15th hand of the tournament (50/50 On FTP). I'm UTG + 1 and honestly, I haven't played a hand up until this point. I often find myself in this spot and its a HUGE leak in my game.
Just fold once he re-pops me 1K and find a better spot? jahdjfsdadf.
Dealt to deep stack donk [Kd Kh]
fullerno2 calls 30
deep stack donk raises to 105
DarlaQ has 15 seconds left to act
DarlaQ calls 105
eighthp calls 75
fullerno2 calls 75
*** FLOP *** [9d 4h 7d]
deep stack donk bets 305
fullerno2 raises to 1,000
deep stack donk has 15 seconds left to act
deep stack donk has requested TIME
deep stack donk raises to 1,845, and is all in
fullerno2 calls 845
deep stack donk shows [Kd Kh]
fullerno2 shows [9h 9c]
*** TURN *** [9d 4h 7d] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [9d 4h 7d 9s] [Qh]
deep stack donk shows two pair, Kings and Nines
fullerno2 shows four of a kind, Nines
fullerno2 wins the pot (4,125) with four of a kind, Nines
deep stack donk stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,125 | Rake 0
Board: [9d 4h 7d 9s Qh]
Seat 1: Hunji didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: widgeon79 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: gotnutz420 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: DarlaQ folded on the Flop
Seat 5: PurpHazed (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Bluffalo56 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: eighthp (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: fullerno2 showed [9h 9c] and won (4,125) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 9: deep stack donk showed [Kd Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Nines
against some random opponent you know nothing about, no you can't fold to that, 10s, Js are certainly in his range. If you know this opponent is a complete nit well then you have to think it over but I still think you have to push this as you did, just unlucky.
I dont see stack sizes here, but I like to raise more pre early on to give set miners the wrong odds to call
Either aipf-you bust anyway- or fold on flop; he knows you likely have big pair, and says he can beat you. He's either a ballsy bluffer (unlikely) or can beat your big pair. Usually the latter. With a big pair, you can fear a set or higher pair (unless you have AA) or ANY flop, and be in a tough spot with a big bet or a raise thrown at you. I like aipf with big pair.
well I'm not in 100% agreement on that. alot of preflop reraises come form AK, AQ hands and that board is air to those kind of hands so low suited connects or middle pocket pair could be very agressive here , 9T or 89, diamond draw, ect..
You deffinetly have to give some weight to a set, but I agree that unless you know this opponent you have to call.
Are you suggesting he open shoves for like 75BB's? Not exactly a value play.
This is just a cooler. any overpair is paying you off here. In a donkament, A9 is paying you off here. If you happen to run into a set, so be it. I think its way to nitty to fold this unless you have a tremendous read.
Flops are not evil.
agreed, TT is paying you off here on the flop, but would almost always fold to all in at 75BB.
Not only this, but this is a tough cooler hand.
I think he can do this with some draws, another overpair, even something like 2 pair that you will have extra outs on the turn and river. I think you have to do that reraise, and once you do, I don't see you folding that. I think it would just be too devestating to sit there all game, play 1 hand, have KK, and then fold the better hand if he shows you a bluff.
I'm rather shocked that he lead out there, but once he does, you have to feel ahead here. Just a tough cooler hand.