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How is my line on bluff here?

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  1. bfull bfull is offline

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    May 22nd, 2008 (5/22/2008 10:01pm)

    I put him on AK or PP when he kept check/called flop and turn. When he tanked on river to my shove I was worried it was 88-TT.
    Could I have won with less of a bet on a river? Did shove look weak? Was this guy not going to fold no matter what?

    pokerstars Game #17622806241: Tournament #88683486, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/05/22 - 21:52:22 (ET)
    Table '88683486 41' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: All_in_at420 (1610 in chips)
    Seat 2: brett h (2685 in chips)
    Seat 3: canouanjr (2280 in chips)
    Seat 4: bluffp (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: DuckU (5990 in chips)
    Seat 6: MMIrish (4470 in chips)
    Seat 7: BreakRibs (3015 in chips)
    Seat 8: Crazyhug (4680 in chips)
    Seat 9: bfull (3905 in chips)
    MMIrish: posts small blind 50
    BreakRibs: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bfull [7h 7s]
    Crazyhug: folds
    bfull: calls 100
    MMIrish: raises 200 to 300
    bfull: calls 200
    *** FLOP *** [2h 5c Jc]
    MMIrish: checks
    bfull: bets 500
    MMIrish: calls 500
    *** TURN *** [2h 5c Jc] [3d]
    MMIrish: checks
    bfull: bets 1200
    MMIrish: calls 1200
    *** RIVER *** [2h 5c Jc 3d] [6d]
    MMIrish: checks
    bfull: bets 1905 and is all-in
    MMIrish: calls 1905
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    bfull: shows [7h 7s] (a pair of Sevens)
    MMIrish: shows [Td Th] (a pair of Tens)
    MMIrish collected 7910 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7910 | Rake 0
    Board [2h 5c Jc 3d 6d]
    Seat 1: All_in_at420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: brett h folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: canouanjr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: bluffp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: DuckU (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: MMIrish (small blind) showed [Td Th] and won (7910) with a pair of Tens
    Seat 7: BreakRibs (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Crazyhug folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: bfull showed [7h 7s] and lost with a pair of Sevens
  2. Camz Camz is offline

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    May 22nd, 2008 (5/22/2008 10:25pm) in reply to bfull

    After he calls the flop and turn, i doubt he is folding river.
  3. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    May 22nd, 2008 (5/22/2008 10:28pm) in reply to bfull

    these kind of plays make my head explode. theyre too pussy to c-bet 2nd pair on a Jack high board, yet theyre completely ok with calling off all their chips on every street anyways. I probably would have shoved turn if I wanted him to fold. I think the call on turn means he has something that he wont fold to a river bet anyways. though im pretty sure he would have called a shove on the turn too given the way he plays. on the riv though, he either missed his draw and isnt gonna call you anyways, so you should probably check giving him a chance to bluff, or he has a pair 10's or jacks and will call you because the river bricked out to any realistic draws you would have been playing. either way, this guy played his hand like a complete pussy and go totally paid off because of it, which in a perfect world would never happen. too bad you didnt spike a 7 on the riv.
  4. bfull bfull is offline

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    May 22nd, 2008 (5/22/2008 11:00pm) in reply to Camz

     
    Originally Posted by Camz2895 View Post

    After he calls the flop and turn, i doubt he is folding river.

    Yes, probably true. I would have had 1900 chips left checking behind on river. I wonder if he folds to 1000 bet, which might look more like a value bet
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  5. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    May 22nd, 2008 (5/22/2008 11:03pm) in reply to bfull

    unfortunately he can't really ever fold the river here i think. on the flop and turn he's decided his hand is still good. so he can't change his mind on the riv unless a big scare card comes out like a club , or another overcard. but still probably doesnt fold
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