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How to play against a noob aggressor/lucksack

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  1. th3priest09 th3priest09 is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 3:34pm)

    I'm sorry if I'm posting quite a bit but I'm really trying to work on my game. I am a profitable MTT player but I know I'm just on the barely profitable level. I am dedicated to find out how to play better.

    You may know that I have been playing the 4.40 180 mans if you saw my other post. I've played 11 so far, went out in the top half in 9 of those, 20th in one (AK lost to QQ), 14th, and 5th. So far I'm down five bucks for 2 days.

    Last night I had my 5th place and I had a great opportunity to win but I had a big problem. 18 people left and the guy right on my left with 50000 in chips (I had about 16k-25k) was super aggressive. Not smart aggressive...noob aggressive. -59 percent ROI. Pokertracker had him at 46 percent VP and PF 36. He always called your blind steal. I only was stealing with good hands. One time, I 3bet with AT suited and he calls. Flop is 449. I continue he calls. Check check. River ace so I bet. He 3 bets and I assume I'm good here but nope he called my steal with 94d.

    This kind of play continued until the final table where...guess where he was put..2 to my left. I KNOW that you're supposed to be aggressive on the bubble and I had a decent stack. As well as the final table..but I couldn't because this guy called anything and I was not hitting my big hands and he had the chips to bully me around.

    My question is, how do you play against these stupid aggressors/lucksacks. He was not good. He had the chip lead and went out 6th because he called everyone's all in with middle pair on flop and called all ins with T7 off.

    Do I take a chance with a mediocre hand or do I wait for a premium and dwindle down to nothing? Thanks
  2. Dirty donkey Dirty donkey is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 3:43pm) in reply to th3priest09

    Wait for a premo and punish him for sloppy play. You cant beat luck no matter how good you are. In the long run blah... blah........ you come out ahead. Dont force action agaist lagtards let the donkey do the pullin.
  3. Frictionless Frictionless is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 3:44pm) in reply to Dirty donkey

    ^^^ Listen to this donk.
  4. th3priest09 th3priest09 is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 3:45pm) in reply to Dirty donkey

    So let me get this straight...It is +EV in the long run to be blinded away and hope that I get a big hand? Just making sure. Or instead of 3 bet, do I shove even though I wouldn't need to against every other player?
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  5. Dirty donkey Dirty donkey is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 3:46pm) in reply to th3priest09

    Agaist a lagtard with a chip lead and table control yes.
  6. bluffslv bluffslv is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 4:34pm) in reply to Dirty donkey

    The point is to let him make these mistakes when you have a monster, instead of outplay him when it's possible he's holding atc.
  7. BigRed0000 BigRed0000 is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 4:51pm) in reply to bluffslv

    There's a lot of answers in this thread that aren't really wrong, but they are by far not the optimal way to play against a 'noob aggressor'. Against players like this you do want to tighten your opening range, but you're not tightening it so much to the point that you nit it up and only play monsters. Adjust your opening ranges to hands that have good 1p value that you can value town against him, limp or just fold weaker small SC's and the random trash you would play against tighter/weaker opponents.

    Players like this are who you should be extracting the most value from, not folding to every time until you have the nuts so you can hope he has a big enough hand to pay you off this time.
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