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How to play AK here? (Preflop + postflop)

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  1. benjyyy benjyyy is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 8:48am)

    Villain has been solid....

    pokerstars Game #22407546130: Tournament #122494727, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/11/27 9:40:55 ET
    Table '122494727 75' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: delfino74 (15775 in chips)
    Seat 2: benjyyy (4970 in chips)
    Seat 3: dragon030784 (16744 in chips)
    Seat 4: howdawg07 (13280 in chips)
    Seat 5: tNgrandbuyin (4050 in chips)
    Seat 6: pilemup (23221 in chips)
    Seat 7: chiodos304 (7245 in chips)
    Seat 8: goupil15 (4360 in chips)
    Seat 9: RZRZRZ (8364 in chips)
    delfino74: posts the ante 25
    benjyyy: posts the ante 25
    dragon030784: posts the ante 25
    howdawg07: posts the ante 25
    tNgrandbuyin: posts the ante 25
    pilemup: posts the ante 25
    chiodos304: posts the ante 25
    goupil15: posts the ante 25
    RZRZRZ: posts the ante 25
    goupil15: posts small blind 125
    RZRZRZ: posts big blind 250
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to benjyyy [Ad Ks]
    delfino74: raises 455 to 705
    benjyyy:??
  2. NeverScaredB NeverScaredB is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 8:55am) in reply to benjyyy

    Re-raise and get it in. Even if he's been solid, he has to respect a re-raise from UTG+1 and fold some part of his range. AK fares well enough against his calling range to re-steal here.
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  3. ABorges ABorges is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 9:53am) in reply to benjyyy

    Very obvious push...
  4. Avery01 Avery01 is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 10:20am) in reply to benjyyy

    Push. You have 20BB and can't wait forever. This is a prime spot to pick up some chips. If he's solid, then he may respect your raise and fold, or maybe he calls with an underpair. If folded to him and he folds, you add more than 20% to your stack. If he calls with an underpair, you have a good chance to double. Plus, you're putting a lot of pressure on anyone behind the two of you that might have a mid pair. If you just call, then you're giving odds to someone with a mid-pair, although they still have to fear a re-raise from him. Again, I say push.
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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 10:23am) in reply to benjyyy

    auto push
  6. Limo Wreck Limo Wreck is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 10:29am) in reply to benjyyy

    muck, muck, muck, muck, muck, AK SHIP, muck, muck muck
  7. benjyyy benjyyy is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 11:16am) in reply to Limo Wreck

    ok so I got the 1st decision wrong...I just thought I was only getting called by JJ or QQ that I had a chance against. I decided to hopefully let others in the pot with plans to fold any flop without an A or K.

    So.......

    benjyyy: calls 705
    dragon030784: folds
    howdawg07: folds
    tNgrandbuyin: folds
    pilemup: calls 705
    chiodos304: calls 705
    goupil15: folds
    RZRZRZ: calls 455
    *** FLOP *** [Kh Tc 4h]
    RZRZRZ: checks
    delfino74: bets 1595
    benjyyy:?

    cant change your mind now I guess?
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  8. B1GTOE B1GTOE is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 11:51am) in reply to benjyyy

     
    Originally Posted by benjyyy View Post

    ok so I got the 1st decision wrong...I just thought I was only getting called by JJ or QQ that I had a chance against. I decided to hopefully let others in the pot with plans to fold any flop without an A or K.

    So.......

    benjyyy: calls 705
    dragon030784: folds
    howdawg07: folds
    tNgrandbuyin: folds
    pilemup: calls 705
    chiodos304: calls 705
    goupil15: folds
    RZRZRZ: calls 455
    *** FLOP *** [Kh Tc 4h]
    RZRZRZ: checks
    delfino74: bets 1595
    benjyyy:?

    cant change your mind now I guess?

  9. Limo Wreck Limo Wreck is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 12:15pm) in reply to benjyyy

    Well now your hand is fairly well disguised and he's probably paying you off. Too late to shove pre/f no you have to shove that flop. Problem is now he's folding QQ, JJ, TT, 99 etc. calling w/ KQ, KJ, KK, AA
  10. IAmLegend IAmLegend is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 1:27pm) in reply to Limo Wreck

    this some kind of joke?
  11. SCTrojans SCTrojans is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 1:58pm) in reply to benjyyy

    lol
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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 2:08pm) in reply to SCTrojans

     
    Originally Posted by SCTrojans View Post

    lol

    qft
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  13. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 2:13pm) in reply to Gags30

    clear fold, his range is AsAh
     
  14. ZeeDustin ZeeDustin is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 2:15pm) in reply to benjyyy

    Shove pre. Gain 20% of yor stack with a fold by him or get it in vs his A10-AK 22+ range.
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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 2:26pm) in reply to ZeeDustin

    I concur with most, shove preflop and hope you get it there..if not like your chances
  16. PocketRuners PocketRuners is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 3:07pm) in reply to TLight

    Obviously pre was a shove as everyone has stated. Now post flop you've hit what you needed to and are clearly going all the way with the hand so put the money in now while the heart draw has not made the flush a possibility and while hands like JQ might call while they're behind. Of course as stated you will lose the smaller pairs which might have called to race you preflop but i could see QQ or JJ potentially coming along if they think you might be semibluffing a flushdraw although unlikely.
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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 3:55pm) in reply to PocketRuners

    AK plays better 1vs1 You called allowing 3 others in the pot behind you. Raise preflop next time. How do u know he has aces? Raise and play for stacks.
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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 4:27pm) in reply to Acidrain77

    The general level of help in this site bewilders me sometimes. I dont really know what a post that says "lol" is meant to achieve? I wish I lol'd at the 5bet shove by SCT with KQ or whatever it was now.

    Some of the other reasoning is just plain bizarre....

     
    Originally Posted by Acidrain77 View Post

    AK plays better 1vs1 You called allowing 3 others in the pot behind you. Raise preflop next time. How do u know he has aces? Raise and play for stacks.

    Anyway, even though shoving pre is the best option its not really that great either. And no-one considers folding after the flop even with a cbet into 4 other players?

    Had to stick it in though as planned...
    *** FLOP *** [Kh Tc 4h]
    RZRZRZ: checks
    delfino74: bets 1595
    benjyyy: raises 2645 to 4240 and is all-in
    pilemup: folds
    chiodos304: calls 4240
    RZRZRZ: folds
    delfino74: raises 2645 to 6885
    chiodos304: calls 2275 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (370) returned to delfino74
    *** TURN *** [Kh Tc 4h] [4d]
    *** RIVER *** [Kh Tc 4h 4d] [Ac]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    delfino74: shows [As Ah] (a full house, Aces full of Fours)
    chiodos304: shows [Jh Kc] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
    delfino74 collected 4550 from side pot
    benjyyy: shows [Ad Ks] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
    delfino74 collected 16595 from main pot

    RZRZRZ said he folded KQ which ended up being pretty easy but obviously left me drawing dead lol
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  19. ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 4:57pm) in reply to benjyyy

    quit poker preflop. seriously
     
  20. benjyyy benjyyy is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 5:37pm) in reply to ASPoker8

     
    Originally Posted by ASPoker8 View Post

    quit poker preflop. seriously

    another sentiment of wisdom
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  21. ZRobsUSC ZRobsUSC is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 6:30pm) in reply to benjyyy

    POTY, imo
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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 6:33pm) in reply to ZRobsUSC

     
    Originally Posted by ZRobsUSC View Post

    POTY, imo

    why does "POTY" get capitals and "imo" doesn't?
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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 7:31pm) in reply to benjyyy

    I misread the stack sizes originally, I thought you had 15K and he has 20 BBs. The second best play is shove pre. The third best play is shove flop. The best play is be less results oriented.
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  24. nickdodoublegee nickdodoublegee is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 7:54pm) in reply to Acidrain77

     
    Originally Posted by Acidrain77 View Post

    AK plays better 1vs1 You called allowing 3 others in the pot behind you. Raise preflop next time. How do u know he has aces? Raise and play for stacks.

    To OP, actually this isn't a bizzare reply.....ak vs. aa is just a cooler u got 20bbs. I'm not trying to give u a hard time but u are thinking results oriented here. You don't get hands like AK, QQ, etc. often. You have to get value out of them when u do.
  25. deadeyehank deadeyehank is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2008 (11/27/2008 8:01pm) in reply to benjyyy

    AK is a super wicked hand, shoooove it!
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