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how shuld my friend get max value? seriously

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  1. Jedi Phil Ivey Jedi Phil Ivey is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2008 (9/12/2008 1:29pm)

    pokerstars Game #20344763898: Tournament #107235069, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/09/12 10:07:07 ET
    Table '107235069 6' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Prof.ChaoZ (5405 in chips)
    Seat 2: cryptopsy111 (8175 in chips)
    Seat 3: geniewiz (6455 in chips)
    Seat 4: lamine203 (5140 in chips)
    Seat 5: Tryads (5665 in chips)
    Seat 6: CH-Ari-33 (8115 in chips)
    Seat 7: westdonk (8825 in chips)
    Seat 8: NeverUMind (4860 in chips)
    Seat 9: hansid90 (3770 in chips)
    geniewiz: posts small blind 50
    lamine203: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to geniewiz [Kd Kc]
    Tryads: folds
    CH-Ari-33: calls 100
    westdonk: calls 100
    NeverUMind: calls 100
    hansid90: folds
    Prof.ChaoZ: folds
    cryptopsy111: calls 100
    geniewiz: raises 700 to 800
    lamine203: folds
    CH-Ari-33: calls 700
    westdonk: folds
    NeverUMind: folds
    cryptopsy111: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Qd Ks 3d]
    geniewiz: checks
    CH-Ari-33: checks
    *** TURN *** [Qd Ks 3d] [Kh]
    geniewiz: checks
    CH-Ari-33: bets 100
    geniewiz: raises 200 to 300
    CH-Ari-33: raises 200 to 500

    geniewiz?????

    remember OOP on river, what the best strategy from here. Villain is playing alot of hands. Seems donkey.
  2. JRoth15 JRoth15 is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2008 (9/12/2008 1:47pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    min raise war obv

    seriously--good question. i have nothing for you.
  3. GrayFOX22 GrayFOX22 is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2008 (9/12/2008 1:53pm) in reply to JRoth15

    I would heavily consider calling and c/r'ing river, but I think a donk lead on the river is decent too. If he has a flush draw or straight draw here, we obviously want to give him a chance to catch up so we can bust him. If he has a set (boat now) then the money is going in either here or the river. Also by flatting and leading or check raising, we leave open his ability to bluff a missed draw. I would say call and check river for sure actually. A pair of queens is the only hand that would call a donk lead and even then it might fold. By check raising, again he can bluff a busted draw or if he is value betting a made hand you can probably get the rest of his stack in the middle. I would think this would maximize the value.
     
  4. King Balky King Balky is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2008 (9/12/2008 4:20pm) in reply to JRoth15

     
    Originally Posted by JRoth15 View Post

    min raise war obv

    I don't think this is a bad idea. min raise till he flats. lead out for 1/3 - 1/2 the pot on the river and hope he shoves...or min raises.
  5. RoyalCrusher RoyalCrusher is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2008 (9/12/2008 4:32pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    shove now. lol at the line so far though. theres like 2k in the pot and the flop goes check check, then the turn goes from 1/20 pot to 1/7 pot and gets clicked back. lol.
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  6. doubledave22 doubledave22 is offline

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    Sep 12th, 2008 (9/12/2008 4:33pm) in reply to RoyalCrusher

    dont play it cute... lead the flop here theres too many draws and if u want max value u just need to bet the entire way. I may check turn but def not flop or riv.
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