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How Terrible is this call ?

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  1. scf187 scf187 is offline

    Las Vegas, NV
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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 10:26pm)

    Didn't have any great reads on villian, just figured he was getting pretty short and this could be a pretty wide shove like low pp and Ax hands and it was a likely a flip I was willing to risk with my stack. Just wondering if this should be more weighted toward snap-fold or other thoughts? Thanks

    Full Tilt Poker Game #20386165052: $35,000 Guarantee (156412420), Table 139 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:20:46 ET - 2010/04/26
    Seat 1: only a game 66 (6,068)
    Seat 2: CENTO (17,715)
    Seat 3: KTEN24 (6,295)
    Seat 4: HARDBREAK (2,440)
    Seat 5: B Mort1 (3,190)
    Seat 6: SCF187 (8,967)
    Seat 7: DartmanDave (9,915)
    Seat 8: doutorlucky (4,295)
    Seat 9: BallaHolic952 (7,170)
    KTEN24 posts the small blind of 60
    HARDBREAK posts the big blind of 120
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to SCF187 [Qs Ks]
    B Mort1 folds
    SCF187 raises to 300
    DartmanDave has 15 seconds left to act
    DartmanDave has timed out
    DartmanDave folds
    DartmanDave is sitting out
    doutorlucky folds
    BallaHolic952 folds
    only a game 66 has 15 seconds left to act
    only a game 66 folds
    CENTO folds
    KTEN24 folds
    HARDBREAK raises to 2,440, and is all in
    SCF187 calls 2,140
    HARDBREAK shows [Ac Qc]
    SCF187 shows [Qs Ks]
    *** FLOP *** [6h 5s 9s]
    *** TURN *** [6h 5s 9s] [8d]
    *** RIVER *** [6h 5s 9s 8d] [Th]
    HARDBREAK shows Ace Queen high
    SCF187 shows King Queen high
    HARDBREAK wins the pot (4,940) with Ace Queen high
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4,940 | Rake 0
    Board: [6h 5s 9s 8d Th]
    Seat 1: only a game 66 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: CENTO (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: KTEN24 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: HARDBREAK (big blind) showed [Ac Qc] and won (4,940) with Ace Queen high
    Seat 5: B Mort1 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: SCF187 showed [Qs Ks] and lost with King Queen high
    Seat 7: DartmanDave didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: doutorlucky didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: BallaHolic952 didn't bet (folded)
  2. tuffgong08 tuffgong08 is offline

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    Apr 26th, 2010 (4/26/2010 10:39pm) in reply to scf187

    I think you can find a fold here. He started the hand with 20bb so he's not that short. Also, he shoved over your early position raise which suggests a pretty tight range which KQ doesn't do that well against, and is often dominated. If he's a little shorter (10-12bb) calling is fine but in this spot I would pretty much snap fold.
  3. finewhine finewhine is offline

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    Apr 27th, 2010 (4/27/2010 9:56am) in reply to scf187

    Don't understand why you'd be willing to risk a 1/4 of your stack. You're probably either dominated or at best a flip. As other poster stated, he wasn't that short-stacked. I don't think it's a terrible call but it sure appears to be -ev.
  4. scf187 scf187 is offline

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    Apr 27th, 2010 (4/27/2010 5:15pm) in reply to finewhine

    Yeah it definitely killed alot of the momentum I had built up at the table, and now looking back it should be an easy fold for exactly reasons you guys mentioned. Thanks for the input
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