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How would u play 44 here?

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  1. Pojai Pojai is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 7:03am)

    pokerstars Game #12755177985: Tournament #63957720, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/21 - 06:53:09 (ET)
    Table '63957720 37' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: bubbleobill (1898 in chips)
    Seat 2: Pojai (8985 in chips)
    Seat 3: JusMuckem707 (13275 in chips)
    Seat 4: BlindFuller (5104 in chips)
    Seat 5: Rugby4Me (10180 in chips)
    Seat 6: RedRaw1 (3122 in chips)
    Seat 7: x Jabroni x (21071 in chips)
    Seat 8: koos 3941 (16483 in chips)
    Seat 9: Nemo678 (7150 in chips)
    bubbleobill: posts the ante 25
    Pojai: posts the ante 25
    JusMuckem707: posts the ante 25
    BlindFuller: posts the ante 25
    Rugby4Me: posts the ante 25
    RedRaw1: posts the ante 25
    x Jabroni x: posts the ante 25
    koos 3941: posts the ante 25
    Nemo678: posts the ante 25
    RedRaw1: posts small blind 200
    x Jabroni x: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Pojai [4s 4c]
    koos 3941: calls 400
    Nemo678: folds
    bubbleobill: folds
    Pojai: calls 400
    JusMuckem707: folds
    BlindFuller: folds
    Rugby4Me: folds
    RedRaw1: raises 2697 to 3097 and is all-in
    x Jabroni x: folds
    koos 3941: calls 2697
    Pojai:??

    I read his UTG limp is weak, the shortstack shove is mostly a steal. So what is the optimal play with 44 here?
     
  2. Dyzalot Dyzalot is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 7:08am) in reply to Pojai

    Fold. Your stack is too short to give you the proper odds to set mine so the only other option is to shove. I don't see UTG folding to your shove once he has this many chips in the pot and at best you will be in a 3-way race situation.
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  3. hldngaflush hldngaflush is offline UT Homer

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 7:15am) in reply to Pojai

    insta muck
  4. Pojai Pojai is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 7:35am) in reply to Dyzalot

    i def hav some fold equity with a shove dere because UTG limper is a donkey n he could be calling the short stack shove pretty light.
     
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  5. computerb computerb is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 7:47am) in reply to hldngaflush

    Fold. Your stack is too short to give you the proper odds to set mine so the only other option is to shove. I don't see UTG folding to your shove once he has this many chips in the pot and at best you will be in a 3-way race situation.
  6. hldngaflush hldngaflush is offline UT Homer

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 7:48am) in reply to computerb

    lol
  7. Skum Skum is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 7:50am) in reply to Pojai

    this is an instant muck
  8. Gettin Daize Gettin Daize is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 9:01am) in reply to Pojai

    if there was any chance you thought koos would fold to a shove u should prolly do it.....also ur hand really doesnt matter in this situation.
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  9. Jennifear Jennifear is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 11:02am) in reply to Pojai

    If you really have FE against the UTG limper, you should shove, but to me, there's no indication that he will fold.
  10. Th3_Ic0n Th3_Ic0n is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 11:30am) in reply to Pojai

    insta-turbo-super muck
  11. FishOnTilt FishOnTilt is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 6:45pm) in reply to Th3_Ic0n

    lol
     
  12. willstaffa willstaffa is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 9:55pm) in reply to FishOnTilt

    come on dude.....this is obv. fold.
  13. TiltinShoes TiltinShoes is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 10:00pm) in reply to willstaffa

    Its true, couldn't fold this quicker.
  14. collis22 collis22 is offline

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    Oct 21st, 2007 (10/21/2007 10:37pm) in reply to TiltinShoes

    easy fold unless you like to gamble with 2 outs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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