Originally Posted by Frank1The1Tank

Ok nh, I'm the fish. Done with this thread.

EDIT: Oh one last comment just because I can't resist. Hafizzle you flopped top set, I flopped bottom set. Your line gave me the chance to fold it (I should have) when 99%+ of other mtters would not simply because they have a set. You have to play a hand pretty fucking awful to get someone to reconsider stacking off in a cooler to you.

But again, I'm the fish, nh gl.

Im going to try to hood this tourney...I shall discuss the hand with you over a drink at the PCA if you like

hafizzle > frank the tank at poker (see results, and the fact that haf is a stone cold legend)

frank the tank > hafizzle at trying to win forum wars and make up fancy analysis when he actually made his decision based on what he percieved forum response would dictate (see cornell fiji)

/thread. lets all just get along.

I dont know alot about your game, but your forum posts are quite immature, as you didnt post this for advice since you seem to already have everything figured out in your mind.. This thread was to attack haf for taking a line that may have been suboptimal, and your bitter about getting coolered....

My post was not an attack on you at all as I cant recall playing a single hand against you, but haf is one of the best tournament players hands down ive ever played against. Id be willing to do a small % crossbook of haf vs you in any live tournaments you both play in if you feel so confident im wrong (haf has too much $ to take online mtts as seriously)

 

Originally Posted by amak316

I dont know alot about your game, but your forum posts are quite immature, as you didnt post this for advice since you seem to already have everything figured out in your mind.. This thread was to attack haf for taking a line that may have been suboptimal, and your bitter about getting coolered....

My post was not an attack on you at all as I cant recall playing a single hand against you, but haf is one of the best tournament players hands down ive ever played against. Id be willing to do a small % crossbook of haf vs you in any live tournaments you both play in if you feel so confident im wrong (haf has too much $ to take online mtts as seriously)

My post was to generate a discussion. Me saying his line was awful, had zero to do with his abilities as a player (in fact I called him a good player who took a bad line). It was him and shankingyou who went on to berate and say all that other nonsense. Me defending my thought process should hardly be considered me having everything figured out in my mind. You seemed to take this as a personal attack against hafizzle when that's not what I did nor the reason for this thread.

That said while I haven't played that many live tournaments yet and have run pretty bad in them, I would still be willing to crossbook action vs him. But just know that I didn't do all of this as some sort of personal shot at him or w/e.

 

Originally Posted by Frank1The1Tank

My post was to generate a discussion. Me saying his line was awful, had zero to do with his abilities as a player (in fact I called him a good player who took a bad line). It was him and shankingyou who went on to berate and say all that other nonsense. Me defending my thought process should hardly be considered me having everything figured out in my mind. You seemed to take this as a personal attack against hafizzle when that's not what I did nor the reason for this thread.

That said while I haven't played that many live tournaments yet and have run pretty bad in them, I would still be willing to crossbook action vs him. But just know that I didn't do all of this as some sort of personal shot at him or w/e.

sounds good, how does 5% up to 20k sound?

btw ive been around online poker for yrs, you think your the first clever person to try the "posting for discussion" flame post. If nothing else your alterior motive is to show your thought process and how you are smarter than 99.9% of poker players, as you havent seen the fruit of your labor enough in the form of profits so you choose to get off on random p5ers stroking your ability to merge all your ranges at all times vs people with no history against you.

 

Originally Posted by hafizzle

Dude you talked shit to me on the table after the hand..We had a discussion already..then u post threads under the guise of hand analysis but your actually talking shit..Im still confused, your saying my line made it obvious i had aa or kk but u still pittsed it? Or your saying it was a cooler but within the fact that you got coolered, i made it obv i had kk or aa but the fact that i made it obv i had aa or kk it still didnt matter cause u still pittsed it?

Or maybe i played the hand in a way where you thought no decent high stakes reg would play aa or kk in such an obvious manner, therefore you had doubt that i had aa or kk and ur bottom set was good causing you to pitts it?

this is by far the most awesome thing I've ever read on p5s hahahaha

fair enough, but if its +EV for you even if you both were only play one common live tournament togethor you still stand to profit by it...

offers on the table, gl in the future. Not trying to stir up things in this thread this whole thing just seemed absurd to me.

No because 222 would be bottom set, wp

o hi amak owning threads

I don't even get why someone as good as frank would post hands on the internet and expose his thought process' for free, seems like there should be a hofthehofxfactor.com or somethin to at least make a dime from it

And Frank, while I will openly admit I was impressed by your play at Foxwoods (which probably means nothing to you, but just as a basis for where I'm coming from), hafizzle is an absolute beast in poker, plays high stakes cash games 200+ bb deep and crushes them, and has just plain sick tournament results across the board, live and online, so if you really think crossbooking vs him is +EV for you, then ur just delusional bro.

Pretty much everything amak said is 10000% spot on, and this thread should be locked because there is no useless discussion going on here

Frank. You would still be grinding low stakes if you have never donked your way through the double duece. You account should be taken away. All you try to do is get attention on this site. You knock on all the regs who have been playing for years and are consistenly winners. GTFO

There are a lot of pittsed off people in this thread.

 

Originally Posted by Frank1The1Tank

DFish, the very first thing I said in my OP was that he was a very good player. I actually don't know if I ever even said he was a bad player anywhere in this thread. I only insulted the line he took with this specific hand (which I thought he also agreed was bad but now I'm unsure but it doesn't matter). amak came in saying I was immature and issuing crossbooking challenges (kind of hypocritcal imo) and I said idc and would consider doing it w/e if our tourney schedules were at all similar. Tbh though dfish I really don't know much about hafizzle, only that hes pretty tight/solid/very good over a decent sample, but other than that nothing. Based on your response and others etc, seems like it wouldn't be wise to crossbook vs him. w/e tho over it after this.

He only thought his line was bad in the case of you having 55 exactly, but that against the rest of your range, which would be air for the most part, that this would be the only way to possibly get you to tool out.