HSMTT- weird spot vs wretchy with set

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  1. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:31pm)

    we both have nice stacks in the 30r... what are you doing here?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #15797809106: $23,500 Guarantee (Rebuy) (115649741), Table 4 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:27:15 ET - 2009/11/04
    Seat 1: cuzitsdelicious (8,430)
    Seat 2: Wretchy (17,410)
    Seat 3: gst (5,940)
    Seat 4: HustlerGrune (10,285)
    Seat 5: LeoEleven (12,270)
    Seat 6: dDeoxyribo (14,470)
    Seat 7: vvirtue (6,890)
    Seat 8: tryitry (5,260)
    Seat 9: 50PerCent50 (5,445)
    vvirtue posts the small blind of 80
    tryitry posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dDeoxyribo [3h 3s]
    50PerCent50 folds
    cuzitsdelicious folds
    Wretchy raises to 480
    gst folds
    HustlerGrune folds
    LeoEleven folds
    dDeoxyribo calls 480
    vvirtue has 15 seconds left to act
    vvirtue folds
    tryitry calls 320
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 2s 4h]
    tryitry checks
    Wretchy checks
    dDeoxyribo checks
    *** TURN *** [Tc 2s 4h] [3c]
    tryitry checks
    Wretchy has 15 seconds left to act
    Wretchy bets 640
    dDeoxyribo has 15 seconds left to act
    dDeoxyribo raises to 1,775
    tryitry folds
    Wretchy has 15 seconds left to act
    Wretchy raises to 6,845
    dDeoxyribo has 15 seconds left to act
    dDeoxyribo has requested TIME
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:38pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    any chance he is checking top set on the flop since its such a dry board?

    is A5 in his opening range?

    looks like his raise would normally imply that he is not folding if you shove but i could be way off
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:38pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    Instacall, lol.
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:40pm) in reply to Kreuznagel

    instacall? that would look much more scary to flat that huge raise there than to just ship it in i think
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:44pm) in reply to JasonBDizzle

    shove...lose to flush draw...start next tourney
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:48pm) in reply to Mr. Blonde

    yeah i believe if you are putting AA, AJc, AQc, AKc in his range then its an easy shove. i dont see why he would check JJ-KK on the flop
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:50pm) in reply to JasonBDizzle

    his bet sizing confuses me too.. he bets like 1/3 pot on turn, then raises BIG over my reraise..
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:50pm) in reply to JasonBDizzle

    coolers imo
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:50pm) in reply to JasonBDizzle

    he flopped a set also, 67% chance ur ahead
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:51pm) in reply to Wretchy

     
    Originally Posted by Wretchy View Post

    coolers imo

    lol at least u stopped following me... u were at like 278934 of my tables
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:52pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    if he is as nitty as they say, 4bet repping A5 and try and get him to fold TT.
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:55pm) in reply to djkelly69

    he always has 56hh imo. results plz...
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:56pm) in reply to Runnin Rich

    bet the flop
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 6:57pm) in reply to Wretchy

     
    Originally Posted by Wretchy View Post

    coolers imo

    wretchness always has it.
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 7:29pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    pretty sure wretchy has QT here like 80% of the time.

    I shove
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 7:36pm) in reply to BigDShaggyJ

    definetly shoving.
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 7:52pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    Does anyone flat here? Maybe try to rep A-Jcc or 45cc or something?

    There would be difficult river decisions, but I think it's a reasonable option.
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 7:58pm) in reply to leftygrove

     
    Originally Posted by leftygrove View Post

    Does anyone flat here? Maybe try to rep A-Jcc or 45cc or something?

    There would be difficult river decisions, but I think it's a reasonable option.

    i was thinking that too to allow wretchy to try a hero bluff shove on river but i think that shoving gets the most value. wretchy could have a monster draw and we want to get value from that as well as max value from 2 pair hands. if we flat and a card that completes two draws hits it might kill our action and we may have to check behind depending on how we range wretchy onthe turn.
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 9:00pm) in reply to Deoxyribo

    regardless of what's been said (yes I haven't read anything as I'm typing this post) I'm 100% Jamming here. TT, 44 and A5 are coolers IMO. But yes I'm jamming.

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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 9:15pm) in reply to Brandon6176

     
    Originally Posted by Brandon6176 View Post

    regardless of what's been said (yes I haven't read anything as I'm typing this post) I'm 100% Jamming here. TT, 44 and A5 are coolers IMO. But yes I'm jamming.

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    ok so we know what beats us, but if we shove and he calls, what do WE beat?
     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 9:27pm) in reply to pikappraider78

     
    Originally Posted by pikappraider78 View Post

    definetly shoving.

     
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 11:01pm) in reply to JasonBDizzle

     
    Originally Posted by JasonBDizzle View Post

    yeah i believe if you are putting AA, AJc, AQc, AKc in his range then its an easy shove. i dont see why he would check JJ-KK on the flop

    yeah, he is never checking an over pair in a 3 way pot (including AA), I think that would be bad. Take JJ-AA out of his range.

    looks like deoxy got set-over-setted imo
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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 11:46pm) in reply to tcstunna

    gut shot ftw
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 12:55am) in reply to Deoxyribo

     
    Originally Posted by Deoxyribo View Post

    ok so we know what beats us, but if we shove and he calls, what do WE beat?

    22 and some big draws, but theres already like 8k in the pot. Its a pretty gay spot but just get it in imo. Set+<100BBs deep+ 5th nuts with redraws against half the hands that beat you= coolers
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 1:14am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    I am never folding here in your situation. In the 30r people are looking to gamble early you need to get it in with your hand. You are never drawing dead imo.
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 1:37am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    FOLD REALLY FAST
     
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 3:15am) in reply to 3kingme3

     
    Originally Posted by 3kingme3 View Post

    22 and some big draws, but theres already like 8k in the pot. Its a pretty gay spot but just get it in imo. Set+<100BBs deep+ 5th nuts with redraws against half the hands that beat you= coolers

    i like this king
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 4:11am) in reply to 3kingme3

     
    Originally Posted by 3kingme3 View Post

    22 and some big draws, but theres already like 8k in the pot. Its a pretty gay spot but just get it in imo. Set+<100BBs deep+ 5th nuts with redraws against half the hands that beat you= coolers

    8k king? deoxy barely has over 2k in no? My super nit powers say fold to wretchys cooler.

    But I'd prob get em all in 33% of the time depending on my mood lol.

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 6:36am) in reply to Deoxyribo

    is this a slowroll gone bad?
     
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 6:41am) in reply to The Lab Rat

     
    Originally Posted by The Lab Rat View Post

    is this a slowroll gone bad?

    haha no. i really didnt know what to do.
    if i shove and get called, all it is is draws/straights/sets right?
    2/3 sets beat me, straights are ahead, and the way he played doesnt seem drawy to me.
    it just seems SOOO strong to bet 1/3 pot then reraise so much.
    i obv wasnt good enough to fold tho but this is one of the first times ive contemplated folding a set.
     
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