Don't really have any history with him and he just got moved to the table about 10 hands ago. Should I bet the turn here and why? Is Huck losing value or did he play the hand correctly?

Full Tilt Poker Game #8237483610: $40 000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (62109003) Table 5 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:51:12 ET - 2008/09/26
Seat 1: Hesperides (10 197)
Seat 2: AreTheseUtz (15 188)
Seat 3: skuzZzzorone (8 653)
Seat 4: insanocut (7 850)
Seat 5: HuckleberrySeed (8 110)
Seat 6: sirsuhr (7 175)
HuckleberrySeed posts the small blind of 80
sirsuhr posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #4

Holecards:
Dealt to AreTheseUtz [ ]
Hesperides folds
AreTheseUtz raises to 480
skuzZzzorone folds
insanocut folds
HuckleberrySeed has 15 seconds left to act
HuckleberrySeed calls 400
sirsuhr folds

Flop :
[ ]
HuckleberrySeed checks
AreTheseUtz bets 625
HuckleberrySeed calls 625

Turn:
[ ] [ ]
HuckleberrySeed checks
AreTheseUtz checks

River:
[ ] [ ]
HuckleberrySeed checks
AreTheseUtz has 15 seconds left to act
AreTheseUtz bets 1 750
HuckleberrySeed calls 1 750

Showdown :
AreTheseUtz shows [ ] three of a kind, Kings
HuckleberrySeed mucks
AreTheseUtz wins the pot (5,870) with three of a kind, Kings

SUMMARY:
Total pot 5,870 | Rake 0
Board:
[ ]
Seat 1: Hesperides didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: AreTheseUtz showed [ ] and won (5 870) with three of a kind Kings
Seat 3: skuzZzzorone didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: insanocut (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: HuckleberrySeed (small blind) mucked [ ] - three of a kind Sixes
Seat 6: sirsuhr (big blind) folded before the Flop

Sorry but I'm ~90 bbs deep here in a 6 max tourny, thinking that my range is just big pocket pairs here is a little bit rediculous.

 

Originally Posted by TheMayor

 

Originally Posted by AreTheseUtz

Sorry but I'm ~90 bbs deep here in a 6 max tourny, thinking that my range is just big pocket pairs here is a little bit rediculous.

What's your calling range if he shoves the river? If it's JJ/QQ/KK/AA theres no reason to raise.

AA is not in his calling range if he shoves river

I'm not soley talking about the river. If he raises the flop I'm not folding AA AK or 44. Or if he bets the turn he can get value from KJ too.

don't really like how either of you played it. checking back the turn is pretty bad since he's rarely turning his flop-call range into bluffs oop, and you should be aiming for building a pot this deep.

as for how he played it, lol. you can defend his c/c flop and checking turn, but not leading out is horrible on the river. his only decision should be to b/f or b/c... c/c is just flat out bad.

I don't know, I put him on some kind of mid strength hand like KQ KJ 77-1010 that I'm never getting three streets of value from. By checking behind I can still get value on the river, and if he leads the river and I jam it looks very bluffy and I think I would get called fairly light. Also I think if I fire a second bullet on the turn he will fold a lot of these hands because he wouldn't be able to call a river jam, which obv isn't optimal because we only get 1 street of value. If he has a set we should be getting it in anyway.

swd, utz is a ballin chip company that are only made in my hometown (hanover, pa)and distributed in the Northeast.

Utz Crab Chips saved my life, literally the best shit ever. And I bet the turn when we're both that deep.

bachman's pretzel sticks

Wow, I don't see how he got away so cheaply, unless he had notes on you where he had seen you check back the nuts on the turn a few times and also had seen you fire a bunch of bluffs on the turn, but even then the way he played this hand is just way too passive. I guess this makes up for the time that Chan soul read him when Huck flopped a full house to beat Chan's AA and Chan didn't put a cent into the pot post-flop. I have always thought Huck played very well, but I don't see how he doesn't lose a lot of value playing this way. Once he went for the check raise on the turn, he had to bet the river.

UTZ is the best brand of chips, reppin shamokin pa the coal region

 

Originally Posted by RTehansky

UTZ is the best brand of chips

Completely inferior to Lays. Quit buying generic products, the economy isn't THAT bad yet.

 

Originally Posted by BlackMuddyRiverRoll

Are these UTZ fyi comes from a reference to the movie "My Cousin Vinny". Great movie and screenname imo.

where in the movie is that mentioned?

Forget Huck losing value, how much value did you lose checking that turn. He might have you on a bigger set, but he is still calling the turn and the river.

I definitely dont think you can say his chk on turn is horrible by any means. Keep in mind this is a 6max and you dont expect a flop call to automatically be super strong. There even a small chance he is floating with a mid pair on flop, and by chking the turn it could induce a bluff/vbet from huck on river. I dont mind your line however I am probably going to make a similar turn bet as i did on flop around 800-1k. If he calls this bet you can be sure he will call a river bet if sized correctly. I always try to lean towards getting maximum value from my big hands even if it means making a marginal hand fold sometimes...in this case there is no way he finds a fold on river after calling a turn bet and he most likely stacks off.

 

Originally Posted by Shad

After reviewing the hand again he has to put you on QQ after the turn check.

I still feel any turn bet and he raises and you get all his chips.

How can you guys polarize Utz's range to like JJ+ just because he opened and cbet the flop then chkd the turn. THERE ARE A MILLION HANDS THAT I WOULD TAKE THAT LINE WITH. Lets say he is opening 22+ kt+ qjss a8ss+, I am almost certainly firing a cbet on that dry of a flop, and after a flat, I am also chking behind the turn many times for pot control when i miss and because a call on that type of flop polarizes his calling range to a set.. or prlly 77-qq maybeeee AA or a KQ KJ KT(although i dont see him calling that light OOP). For this reason I still like betting the turn because you can get turn value from a large% of that range.