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i crush live poker but online poker i get crushed? where to turn to?

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  1. Aces_Kid Aces_Kid is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 12:44am)

    i have an account at cardrunners and my mtt game has improved a ton, but yet i still lose, i can't build a bankroll for shit....im sick of playin for $5-$50 sngs, mtts and cash games, but the thing is i crush live tourneys the past 5 live tourneys from $50- $200 buyins ive cashed and won 1 time, 2 of them i had the worst run of cards ever, and managed to finish 2nd both times, and one tourney i played 3 hands and took 3rd....these are tourneys with 5 tables at the min and 10 at the most...but yet, online i get crushed left and right, worst hand always winning, im never sucking out over 750 sngs the past month and half and i have lost 2nd-9th place with the best hand bette rthen 51% edge 91.2% of the time im all in, i cannot figure it out....

    this is why i am afraid to put money on to play big limits, because i know im just gonna get donked....i watch stinger, AJ and greenplastic videos, all the time, i read the forums, but yet i feel like my game is too good online to win...ill make the right calls with the best hand someone is bluffing me, bang they hit their card and i lose, i risk my chips with the best hand being the favorite bam i lose....but live, its like i can't lose when im running horrible or running good.... i just dont get...i cannot figure it out
  2. WEC WEC is offline helps keep track of scammers in the Transfer Thread

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 12:52am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    Dont worry--since online poker is goona be over soon :) Be lucky you are better at Live
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:08am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    I have the same sort of problem. What I noticed was how much more attention I play live. I am able to read people so much better live almost down to their two cards. Online with out the tells, mannerisms, their dress. It is tougher to field them. So two things.

    1. Start taking detailed notes on your oponents. This will cause you to pay more attention to your online opponents. (I have noticed I have had far more cashes taking notes than not, even at that micro limits where I never play the same person twice.)

    2. Many of the great online and live players play situations better than their opponents. So use the card calculator to figure out odds helps alot too.
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:20am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    "my game is too good online to win...." - that'd be a nice prob to have!
     
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:26am) in reply to bwcoates123

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  6. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:28am) in reply to gboro780

    lololol

    this guy's posts are always good for a laugh, never fails..
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  7. acecatcher26 acecatcher26 is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:29am) in reply to gboro780

    <TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>"my game is too good online to win...." </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    I hate to be the one to tell u this, but If your game was good

    U would win....
  8. lane1300 lane1300 is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:30am) in reply to acecatcher26

    i'm more comptetive live in my brief future hall of fame career.
  9. dhubermex dhubermex is offline Senior Writer

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:34am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    You do realize that placing 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd in 5 live tournaments is an insanely good run, right? What happens when you stop running so well at live poker? If you'd like to take my advice, I'd say set aside about $300 on stars (or some other site that has a lot of SnG's), and start 10-tabling $5.50/$6.50 SnG's until you realize that poker is all about hard work and not about good/bad Fortune.

    You could do the same thing live, but reality will probaby dawn on you a lot quicker via online poker due to volume. It might take you A YEAR to realize your edge at live poker isn't even close to what you think it is right now (no personal knock on you, it's just that poker is what it is).
     
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:36am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    You ask where to turn to? I think your answering that yourself. Just focus on playing live instead of online. There could be many reasons why do better live than online. Maybe you concentrate better live because you have only one-table to worry about. Maybe you are good at reading people. The list could go on. If you are truly a better live player then obviously that needs to be your focus. Online play is not the end-all be-all of poker. Many, many people made money before the online rush playing live, and people will continue to make money live for many years to come. And you know something this may be a perfect time to focus on your live game because of all the non-sense going on with online poker. My advice, focus on your live game. Take the time to search for soft cash games while continuing to improve your live MTTs. And think many of these online players who started playing when they were under 21 will start becoming of age to play live, that should increase the population in the live games. Just something to consider. Good Luck!

    GEO
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:42am) in reply to Geostorm2005

    playing some Stud Cash has made me a force

    in Live and Online:
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:43am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    I found readjusting my mouse settings helped me especially during turn and river cards. Put your cursor on the top right of your screen and you'll get 41% increase and beat the dogs.
  13. Aces_Kid Aces_Kid is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:44am) in reply to Geostorm2005

    like i said ive only played 5 tournaments as of late, seens how i just turned 21....and i am planning on playin the smaller events at the WPT foxwoods poker classic as well....

    the tournaments i have played are against people who have no care for the $200 and play just as bad as teh $5 mtt/sng players online....there are 3-4 of them who play online $100+ buyins and are losing players overall online, but get lucky live because they dont care about the money, 4 of the players in our regular tournament are professional athletes who could care less about $200 when they make more then that a day...the rest are comprised of business owners, and big time employees of new channels and radio stations....so these players will raise J9os in any position on the table, or just call you down, their not all that amazin or will put moves on you like big time players like yourself gboro
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  14. dhubermex dhubermex is offline Senior Writer

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:47am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    So what you're saying, Aces, is that you <3 "Live n00bs" and hate "Online n00bs". So are we getting to the point where you suggest online poker is somehow rigged again? That's where this is going (again), right?
     
  15. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:50am) in reply to randomfrost

    ^ was waiting for that
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  16. Aces_Kid Aces_Kid is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 1:55am) in reply to randomfrost

    no im not sayin its rigged Dhubermax, i made that post when i was on tilt and such, yeah i made a dumb post whoopdy doo....and i could careless if ppl still bring it up, i mean the only reason i joined this site, was to think it would help me get better, but yet its helped me hate most the people on here, some people ive met through here are cool but yet there is a lot of top players that are dicks, and dhubermax never thought you would be the one to be a dick but hey, i guess its online....

    i was making the reference that im playin the same players but its different settings, seens how im playin online in one setting, and live in the other setting....and i never said online poker is rigged, i know its not...so whatever

    hey dhubermax is negreanu running extremely hot too, becuase what doesnt he have 3 or 4 FT's this year already and in 2004 he dominated, and i guess men the master ran insanely hott for 2 straight years in live poker winning PLayer of the Year back to back huh??....so i guess that means that Doyle, Chan, and Hellmuth been runnin hott for the past 15-20 years becuase they have 10 WSOP bracelets...but what do i know?
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 2:08am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    yeah, dhubermex is better communicating live than online. he's mexican and there is a language barrier.
  18. dhubermex dhubermex is offline Senior Writer

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 2:10am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    Aces, you're talking nonsense. Take my advice ^ in the first post I made ^ and maybe things will get better.
     
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 2:15am) in reply to randomfrost

    You aren't that good. Never compare yourself to a Pro you chump.
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 2:16am) in reply to Aces_Kid



    people think that i am a nice guy because of the way that i project myself. i am the furthest thing from a nice guy. i wouldnt hesitate to break a cue stick over a guys neck for looking at me the wrong way. i was a nasty son of a bitch, I AM a nasty son of a bitch. and thats probably why my family hates me and my daughters dislike me a great deal. everything i ever had in this world is down the toilet. i have nothing. i came into this world with nothing and i will die with nothing.
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 2:20am) in reply to Niceguy

    easy now, i know dhuber is a pro, but you didn't have to say I wasn't good too!
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 2:43am) in reply to IcemanKuklinski

    Thanks alot. Why don't you just rock me to sleep tonight iceman. That post will haunt my dreams for eternity. GG
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 2:47am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>whos gonna be in foxwoods on the 15th-18th??
    by Aces_Kid on 11/10/2006 17:19 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>ill be heading down there to play some 20/40 stud and holdem and possibly 75/150 if anyone wants to meet up im down for dinner or somehting, ill be with family and friends, and my brother may be playing the tourney that starts the 12th Main Event i believe?? </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>can we ban this liar.....sooooon
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 3:09am) in reply to wareagle83

    yo aces thats prolly becauzse the play online is better
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 3:10am) in reply to Aces_Kid

    pro blackjack.
  26. lane1300 lane1300 is offline

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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 3:20am) in reply to Quantum

    i CRUSH No Mercy in live poker.

    does that count ??
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    Jan 27th, 2007 (1/27/2007 3:20am) in reply to notashark

    either that or he's not playing high enough where the plays he is used to making are working. either trust yourself enough to put enough online to play at levels you're used to playing, or start working on playing more straightforward than normal just because the kind of innovative plays you'd make higher up won't work at lower buy-ins.

    either that, or your recent live success is just a hot run, and you may end up losing there too recently. i have no clue, since i didn't see how long you've been playing up there (and am not reading the whole thread just to see if you made mention), and whether you've been consistently winning other than these five tournaments.
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