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  1. pokerstars Game #21368881234: Tournament #113896171, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (10000/20000) - 2008/10/21 3:38:42 ET
    Table '113896171 89' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: CPT CRUX (234472 in chips) <--------------------------Me
    Seat 3: PapaHarkin (234067 in chips)
    Seat 4: JasonGray (338635 in chips)
    Seat 5: drwear (294816 in chips)
    Seat 6: voigt2006 (959342 in chips)
    Seat 7: papadelpoker (594928 in chips)
    Seat 9: mjluth (322740 in chips)
    CPT CRUX: posts the ante 2000
    PapaHarkin: posts the ante 2000
    JasonGray: posts the ante 2000
    drwear: posts the ante 2000
    voigt2006: posts the ante 2000
    papadelpoker: posts the ante 2000
    mjluth: posts the ante 2000
    CPT CRUX: posts small blind 10000
    PapaHarkin: posts big blind 20000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to papadelpoker [9s 5c]
    JasonGray: raises 31250 to 51250
    drwear: folds
    voigt2006: folds
    papadelpoker: folds
    mjluth: folds
    CPT CRUX: folds
    PapaHarkin: calls 31250
    *** FLOP *** [Ac Jh 4c]
    PapaHarkin: checks
    JasonGray: checks
    *** TURN *** [Ac Jh 4c] [7h]
    Hegeldom [observer] said, "dude Im sick...thought this was going to be the one for me..ouch...Im steaming"
    PapaHarkin: bets 83217
    Hegeldom [observer] said, "GD AK vs AA the sb and the bb"
    Hegeldom [observer] said, "killing me dealer"
    JasonGray has timed out
    JasonGray: folds
    Uncalled bet (83217) returned to PapaHarkin
    JasonGray is sitting out
    JasonGray has returned
    JasonGray said, "ekl;dflsf"
    PapaHarkin collected 126500 from pot
    PapaHarkin: shows [Ks Ah] (a pair of Aces)

    Is there any chance I am getting paid? I took 7th.
     
  2. Hope so - good luck.
     
  3. this op is kinda worthlesss....unless you had the full ft hh? that would be kinda helpful imo
  4.  
    Originally Posted by Big G View Post

    this op is kinda worthlesss....unless you had the full ft hh?  that would be kinda helpful imo

    i dont think hes trying to prove anything, he just wants to know if he might move up a spot in the $
     
  5. its extremely hard to imagine that those 2 at the same final table and NOT soft playing eachother especially when every1 else doesn't know they're brothers..
  6. but u posted posted papadelpokers HH

    CHEATER
  7. JasonGray has timed out
    JasonGray: folds
    Uncalled bet (83217) returned to PapaHarkin
    JasonGray is sitting out
    JasonGray has returned
    JasonGray said, "ekl;dflsf"

    lol.....
     
  8.  
    Originally Posted by annodv View Post

    JasonGray has timed out
    JasonGray: folds
    Uncalled bet (83217) returned to PapaHarkin
    JasonGray is sitting out
    JasonGray has returned
    JasonGray said, "ekl;dflsf"

    lol.....

    awesomee
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  9. So are the Gray's talking piglatin or sum such other amongst each other?..peace
  10. He didnt post papa's HH, he pulled it off another post here, look around and you'll find that same HH all over the posts related to the Gray Bros
  11. I was at the same Final Table (finished 9th) and have emailed pokerstars about the situation. Here is their response:

    Thank you for your email. I understand why you would be concerned given
    what we now know about the accounts that they may have assisted each other
    during the course of the tournament. Since the time when the account
    PapaHarkin has been used by MrCasino I have looked at all same table play
    between him and JasonGray.

    Although their play focussed on the higher buy-in events with generally
    smaller fields they had relatively few hands where they were seated at the
    same table. Just because they are related does not mean they are going to
    cheat. I can confirm that the reason for MrCasino's original timeout from
    the site was nothing to do with collusion but more occasionally letting
    other people play on his account so he could try and achieve SuperNova
    Elite status.

    I have copied several hands at the bottom of this email where you will see
    they clearly were not working together. One of these is from the final
    table you were on where we have one pressurising the other when he is very
    shortstacked. I cannot reveal hole cards but you will see from these that
    they were not softplaying, stack balancing or using any other technique. I
    also found examples of hands where they played counterfeited holdings so
    they were no sharing hole cards either. There is also an example where one
    eliminates the other outside of the rebuy period and well short of the
    money. Players working together simply would not play in this manner.

    Considering that there was no foul play at the table, neither player will
    be disqualified from this event.
    That being said both players have now
    been barred from PokerStars. Mr Casino for breaking the terms of his
    timeout and PapaHarkin/JasonGray for the relationship to MrCasino and the
    fact that we could not be certain that he would not use their accounts to
    play.

    Please let me know if you wish to discuss further.

    Regards,

    Ed
    PokerStars Game Security

    ************************************************** ************************
    PokerStars Game #21369010049: Tournament #113896171, $150+$12 Hold'em No
    Limit - Level XXVI (15000/30000) - 2008/10/21 3:53:09 ET
    Table '113896171 89' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 3: PapaHarkin (187317 in chips)
    Seat 4: JasonGray (1128175 in chips)
    Seat 6: voigt2006 (801342 in chips)
    Seat 7: papadelpoker (862166 in chips)
    PapaHarkin: posts the ante 3000
    JasonGray: posts the ante 3000
    voigt2006: posts the ante 3000
    papadelpoker: posts the ante 3000
    Moving Bets to Pot
    papadelpoker: posts small blind 15000
    PapaHarkin: posts big blind 30000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    03:53:18 JasonGray: raises 45687 to 75687
    03:53:18 voigt2006: folds
    03:53:20 papadelpoker: folds
    03:53:21 PapaHarkin: folds
    03:53:21 Moving Bets to Pot
    03:53:21 Uncalled bet (45687) returned to JasonGray
    03:53:25 JasonGray collected 87000 from pot
    03:53:26 JasonGray: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 87000 | Rake 0
    Seat 3: PapaHarkin (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: JasonGray collected (87000)
    Seat 6: voigt2006 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: papadelpoker (small blind) folded before Flop
    ************************************************** ************************

    ************************************************** ************************
    PokerStars Game #21468032094: Tournament #114746721, $100+$9 Hold'em No
    Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/10/24 21:10:42 ET
    Table '114746721 7' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: JasonGray (9985 in chips)
    Seat 2: niccc (9452 in chips)
    Seat 3: p0cket00 (9805 in chips)
    Seat 4: Shillawood (11660 in chips)
    Seat 5: babyshark33 (8050 in chips)
    Seat 6: PapaHarkin (4887 in chips)
    Seat 8: Exitonly4 (8770 in chips)
    Seat 9: USCphildo (6766 in chips)
    babyshark33: posts small blind 75
    PapaHarkin: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    21:10:48 Exitonly4: folds
    21:10:57 USCphildo: folds
    21:11:05 JasonGray: raises 300 to 450
    21:11:13 niccc: folds
    21:11:13 p0cket00: folds
    21:11:16 Shillawood: folds
    21:11:18 babyshark33: folds
    21:11:25 PapaHarkin: folds
    21:11:25 Moving Bets to Pot
    21:11:25 Uncalled bet (300) returned to JasonGray
    21:11:29 JasonGray collected 375 from pot
    21:11:29 JasonGray: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 375 | Rake 0
    Seat 1: JasonGray collected (375)
    Seat 2: niccc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: p0cket00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Shillawood (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: babyshark33 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: PapaHarkin (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Exitonly4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: USCphildo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    ************************************************** ************************

    ************************************************** ************************
    PokerStars Game #21281640820: Tournament #113292647, $150+$12 Hold'em No
    Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/10/17 21:42:08 ET
    Table '113292647 5' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: BigDennys (2960 in chips)
    Seat 2: somewhrntime (3955 in chips)
    Seat 3: Shakey71 (5485 in chips)
    Seat 4: jclark9001 (1755 in chips)
    Seat 5: PapaHarkin (8520 in chips)
    Seat 6: pvitantonio (2020 in chips)
    Seat 8: JasonGray (2325 in chips)
    Seat 9: wearubn (23300 in chips)
    jclark9001: posts small blind 25
    PapaHarkin: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    21:42:11 pvitantonio: folds
    21:42:17 JasonGray: raises 100 to 150
    21:42:22 wearubn: calls 150
    21:42:24 BigDennys: calls 150
    21:42:28 somewhrntime: calls 150
    21:42:28 Shakey71: folds
    21:42:29 jclark9001: calls 125
    21:42:30 PapaHarkin: calls 100
    21:42:30 Moving Bets to Pot
    21:42:30 *** FLOP *** [2c 8h 3h]
    21:42:36 jclark9001: checks
    21:42:40 PapaHarkin: checks
    21:42:45 JasonGray: bets 600
    21:42:46 wearubn: calls 600
    21:42:48 BigDennys: folds
    21:42:48 somewhrntime: folds
    21:42:50 jclark9001: raises 1005 to 1605 and is all-in
    21:43:03 PapaHarkin: raises 6765 to 8370 and is all-in
    21:43:05 JasonGray: calls 1575 and is all-in
    21:43:07 wearubn: folds
    21:43:07 Moving Bets to Pot
    21:43:07 Uncalled bet (6195) returned to PapaHarkin
    21:43:12 *** TURN *** [2c 8h 3h] [6c]
    21:43:14 *** RIVER *** [2c 8h 3h 6c] [Kh]
    21:43:16 *** SHOW DOWN ***
    PapaHarkin: shows [Jh Th] (a flush, King high)
    21:43:16 JasonGray: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
    21:43:19 PapaHarkin collected 1140 from side pot
    21:43:19 jclark9001: shows [7d 8d] (a pair of Eights)
    21:43:21 PapaHarkin collected 6315 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7455 Main pot 6315. Side pot 1140. | Rake 0
    Board [2c 8h 3h 6c Kh]
    Seat 1: BigDennys folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: somewhrntime folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: Shakey71 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: jclark9001 (small blind) showed [7d 8d] and lost with a pair of
    Eights
    Seat 5: PapaHarkin (big blind) showed [Jh Th] and won (7455) with a flush,
    King high
    Seat 6: pvitantonio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: JasonGray showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 9: wearubn folded on the Flop
  12. Heh. I wasn't passing any judgement as to whether or not they colluded, but rather I was just wondering if I had funds coming to me. If not, it's no biggie. Thanks for the replies guys.
     
    Thread Starter
  13. but hes the nicest guy in the world and i know because i played with him for a day at (insert retarded live tourny here)! Come on, either everyone who is vouching for these idiots is gullable as sht or they have something to gain financially from the situation.
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