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pokerstars Game #21368881234: Tournament #113896171, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (10000/20000) - 2008/10/21 3:38:42 ET
Table '113896171 89' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: CPT CRUX (234472 in chips) <--------------------------Me
Seat 3: PapaHarkin (234067 in chips)
Seat 4: JasonGray (338635 in chips)
Seat 5: drwear (294816 in chips)
Seat 6: voigt2006 (959342 in chips)
Seat 7: papadelpoker (594928 in chips)
Seat 9: mjluth (322740 in chips)
CPT CRUX: posts the ante 2000
PapaHarkin: posts the ante 2000
JasonGray: posts the ante 2000
drwear: posts the ante 2000
voigt2006: posts the ante 2000
papadelpoker: posts the ante 2000
mjluth: posts the ante 2000
CPT CRUX: posts small blind 10000
PapaHarkin: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to papadelpoker [9s 5c]
JasonGray: raises 31250 to 51250
drwear: folds
voigt2006: folds
papadelpoker: folds
mjluth: folds
CPT CRUX: folds
PapaHarkin: calls 31250
*** FLOP *** [Ac Jh 4c]
PapaHarkin: checks
JasonGray: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac Jh 4c] [7h]
Hegeldom [observer] said, "dude Im sick...thought this was going to be the one for me..ouch...Im steaming"
PapaHarkin: bets 83217
Hegeldom [observer] said, "GD AK vs AA the sb and the bb"
Hegeldom [observer] said, "killing me dealer"
JasonGray has timed out
JasonGray: folds
Uncalled bet (83217) returned to PapaHarkin
JasonGray is sitting out
JasonGray has returned
JasonGray said, "ekl;dflsf"
PapaHarkin collected 126500 from pot
PapaHarkin: shows [Ks Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Is there any chance I am getting paid? I took 7th. -
this op is kinda worthlesss....unless you had the full ft hh? that would be kinda helpful imo
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its extremely hard to imagine that those 2 at the same final table and NOT soft playing eachother especially when every1 else doesn't know they're brothers..
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awesomee
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So are the Gray's talking piglatin or sum such other amongst each other?..peace
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He didnt post papa's HH, he pulled it off another post here, look around and you'll find that same HH all over the posts related to the Gray Bros
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I was at the same Final Table (finished 9th) and have emailed pokerstars about the situation. Here is their response:
Thank you for your email. I understand why you would be concerned given
what we now know about the accounts that they may have assisted each other
during the course of the tournament. Since the time when the account
PapaHarkin has been used by MrCasino I have looked at all same table play
between him and JasonGray.
Although their play focussed on the higher buy-in events with generally
smaller fields they had relatively few hands where they were seated at the
same table. Just because they are related does not mean they are going to
cheat. I can confirm that the reason for MrCasino's original timeout from
the site was nothing to do with collusion but more occasionally letting
other people play on his account so he could try and achieve SuperNova
Elite status.
I have copied several hands at the bottom of this email where you will see
they clearly were not working together. One of these is from the final
table you were on where we have one pressurising the other when he is very
shortstacked. I cannot reveal hole cards but you will see from these that
they were not softplaying, stack balancing or using any other technique. I
also found examples of hands where they played counterfeited holdings so
they were no sharing hole cards either. There is also an example where one
eliminates the other outside of the rebuy period and well short of the
money. Players working together simply would not play in this manner.
Considering that there was no foul play at the table, neither player will
be disqualified from this event. That being said both players have now
been barred from PokerStars. Mr Casino for breaking the terms of his
timeout and PapaHarkin/JasonGray for the relationship to MrCasino and the
fact that we could not be certain that he would not use their accounts to
play.
Please let me know if you wish to discuss further.
Regards,
Ed
PokerStars Game Security
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PokerStars Game #21369010049: Tournament #113896171, $150+$12 Hold'em No
Limit - Level XXVI (15000/30000) - 2008/10/21 3:53:09 ET
Table '113896171 89' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: PapaHarkin (187317 in chips)
Seat 4: JasonGray (1128175 in chips)
Seat 6: voigt2006 (801342 in chips)
Seat 7: papadelpoker (862166 in chips)
PapaHarkin: posts the ante 3000
JasonGray: posts the ante 3000
voigt2006: posts the ante 3000
papadelpoker: posts the ante 3000
Moving Bets to Pot
papadelpoker: posts small blind 15000
PapaHarkin: posts big blind 30000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
03:53:18 JasonGray: raises 45687 to 75687
03:53:18 voigt2006: folds
03:53:20 papadelpoker: folds
03:53:21 PapaHarkin: folds
03:53:21 Moving Bets to Pot
03:53:21 Uncalled bet (45687) returned to JasonGray
03:53:25 JasonGray collected 87000 from pot
03:53:26 JasonGray: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 87000 | Rake 0
Seat 3: PapaHarkin (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: JasonGray collected (87000)
Seat 6: voigt2006 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: papadelpoker (small blind) folded before Flop
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PokerStars Game #21468032094: Tournament #114746721, $100+$9 Hold'em No
Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/10/24 21:10:42 ET
Table '114746721 7' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JasonGray (9985 in chips)
Seat 2: niccc (9452 in chips)
Seat 3: p0cket00 (9805 in chips)
Seat 4: Shillawood (11660 in chips)
Seat 5: babyshark33 (8050 in chips)
Seat 6: PapaHarkin (4887 in chips)
Seat 8: Exitonly4 (8770 in chips)
Seat 9: USCphildo (6766 in chips)
babyshark33: posts small blind 75
PapaHarkin: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
21:10:48 Exitonly4: folds
21:10:57 USCphildo: folds
21:11:05 JasonGray: raises 300 to 450
21:11:13 niccc: folds
21:11:13 p0cket00: folds
21:11:16 Shillawood: folds
21:11:18 babyshark33: folds
21:11:25 PapaHarkin: folds
21:11:25 Moving Bets to Pot
21:11:25 Uncalled bet (300) returned to JasonGray
21:11:29 JasonGray collected 375 from pot
21:11:29 JasonGray: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 375 | Rake 0
Seat 1: JasonGray collected (375)
Seat 2: niccc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: p0cket00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Shillawood (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: babyshark33 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: PapaHarkin (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Exitonly4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: USCphildo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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PokerStars Game #21281640820: Tournament #113292647, $150+$12 Hold'em No
Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/10/17 21:42:08 ET
Table '113292647 5' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: BigDennys (2960 in chips)
Seat 2: somewhrntime (3955 in chips)
Seat 3: Shakey71 (5485 in chips)
Seat 4: jclark9001 (1755 in chips)
Seat 5: PapaHarkin (8520 in chips)
Seat 6: pvitantonio (2020 in chips)
Seat 8: JasonGray (2325 in chips)
Seat 9: wearubn (23300 in chips)
jclark9001: posts small blind 25
PapaHarkin: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
21:42:11 pvitantonio: folds
21:42:17 JasonGray: raises 100 to 150
21:42:22 wearubn: calls 150
21:42:24 BigDennys: calls 150
21:42:28 somewhrntime: calls 150
21:42:28 Shakey71: folds
21:42:29 jclark9001: calls 125
21:42:30 PapaHarkin: calls 100
21:42:30 Moving Bets to Pot
21:42:30 *** FLOP *** [2c 8h 3h]
21:42:36 jclark9001: checks
21:42:40 PapaHarkin: checks
21:42:45 JasonGray: bets 600
21:42:46 wearubn: calls 600
21:42:48 BigDennys: folds
21:42:48 somewhrntime: folds
21:42:50 jclark9001: raises 1005 to 1605 and is all-in
21:43:03 PapaHarkin: raises 6765 to 8370 and is all-in
21:43:05 JasonGray: calls 1575 and is all-in
21:43:07 wearubn: folds
21:43:07 Moving Bets to Pot
21:43:07 Uncalled bet (6195) returned to PapaHarkin
21:43:12 *** TURN *** [2c 8h 3h] [6c]
21:43:14 *** RIVER *** [2c 8h 3h 6c] [Kh]
21:43:16 *** SHOW DOWN ***
PapaHarkin: shows [Jh Th] (a flush, King high)
21:43:16 JasonGray: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
21:43:19 PapaHarkin collected 1140 from side pot
21:43:19 jclark9001: shows [7d 8d] (a pair of Eights)
21:43:21 PapaHarkin collected 6315 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7455 Main pot 6315. Side pot 1140. | Rake 0
Board [2c 8h 3h 6c Kh]
Seat 1: BigDennys folded on the Flop
Seat 2: somewhrntime folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Shakey71 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jclark9001 (small blind) showed [7d 8d] and lost with a pair of
Eights
Seat 5: PapaHarkin (big blind) showed [Jh Th] and won (7455) with a flush,
King high
Seat 6: pvitantonio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: JasonGray showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: wearubn folded on the Flop -
but hes the nicest guy in the world and i know because i played with him for a day at (insert retarded live tourny here)! Come on, either everyone who is vouching for these idiots is gullable as sht or they have something to gain financially from the situation.
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