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I know its a $4.40 but is this a fold???

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  1. FallTroy FallTroy is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 9:27am)

    1. Read on jennabot is that she is very very loose.

    pokerstars Game #22398707730: Tournament #123202500, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/11/26 23:04:40 ET
    Table '123202500 10' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: MBranches (1480 in chips)
    Seat 2: cafeman3 (9630 in chips)
    Seat 3: sputneck (1110 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: jennabot69 (9070 in chips)
    Seat 5: Promethe (3805 in chips)
    Seat 6: FallTroy (10040 in chips)
    Seat 8: odiejuancha (3525 in chips)
    Seat 9: The_LIPPER14 (9775 in chips)
    The_LIPPER14: posts small blind 100
    MBranches: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to FallTroy [9s 9h]
    cafeman3: folds
    sputneck: folds
    jennabot69: raises 200 to 400
    Promethe: folds
    FallTroy: calls 400
    cafeman3 said, "next time, call"
    odiejuancha: folds
    The_LIPPER14: calls 300
    MBranches: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Ts Qd Ah]
    The_LIPPER14: checks
    jennabot69: checks
    cafeman3 said, "you'll find out then."
    FallTroy: checks
    *** TURN *** [Ts Qd Ah] [9c]
    The_LIPPER14: bets 600
    jennabot69: raises 600 to 1200
    FallTroy: calls 1200
    The_LIPPER14: calls 600
    *** RIVER *** [Ts Qd Ah 9c] [7d]
    The_LIPPER14: checks
    jennabot69: bets 7470 and is all-in
    FallTroy: ??????????

    Flame away with how bad I played this hand. Results will come
  2. TonyBlaze TonyBlaze is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 9:29am) in reply to FallTroy

    Never-if your beat your beat. What do you think she has 10 8? KJ?

    Is she is VERY loose cant see how you can surely put her on a hand that beats 999

    She may have anticipated an actionless flop had everyone too weak to call her river bet
     
  3. Peeig Peeig is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 9:46am) in reply to TonyBlaze

    I don't think this is ever a fold in a $4.40................I am snap calling and hoping not to see KJ, otherwise, you have a big stack................if they do have KJ, sign up for the next one.....no worries.
  4. Alverno Alverno is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 9:56am) in reply to FallTroy

    Snap call in a 4.40 !!
  5. FallTroy FallTroy is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 10:31am) in reply to Alverno

    I folded and here is my reasoning:

    The checked flop raises questions right then and there.
    The min-raise on the turn is almost a dead giveaway for a donkey that has a monster.
    And then the shove is classic donk trying to get max value out of his or her hand and has no clue how to value bet.

    Just just my opinion anyways
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  6. veidar6 veidar6 is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 11:28am) in reply to FallTroy

    i agree with fall's logic, for some reason, the minraise pre, the check on the flop, and the minraise on the turn, then shoving the river screams terribly played AA/QQ to me. Could also be AQ or even possibly AK, but i think more times than not in 4.40s that'll be AA/QQ.
  7. rocksolid124 rocksolid124 is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 12:01pm) in reply to FallTroy

    I find that the min-raise pre in a 4.40 hardly ever means a big hand honestly. I get it in in these tourneys a large percentage of the time. Believe me, after playing a lot of these, I've found they show up with ace no kicker or even two pair more than a straight or a higher set.
  8. gymrat56 gymrat56 is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 12:58pm) in reply to FallTroy

    In a $4.40 (or just about any other stakes I'd imagine) it's really tough to put someone on like 2 of 3 hands. The range they could likely have is usually much wider. Add to that the fact that this happens to be a 4.40 and I agree with the people who said a ton of people in this tourney are going to be min raising and overbetting for no good reason with hands that they def shouldn't and lots of them for that matter. So when I saw the turn action I knew it was an insta call as long as a k or j didn't come. an offsuit 7 is a total blank so no reason to worry with the 5th nuts. The fact that you said this player was extra loose means they tend to overvalue hands and most players who overvalue hands pre also overvalue them on all other streets. Call, you'll rake in a big pot and laugh a huge % of the time.
  9. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 2:29pm) in reply to gymrat56

    shutting it down on the flop and min raising the turn screams a huge hand 3 way. you should still call though.
  10. pharreal87 pharreal87 is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 2:48pm) in reply to TonyBlaze

    this is a tough call imo....... i can see the donkey having AA, KJ, or another set higher than 9's.......the min raise pre could be high pocket or KJ....... if u weren't in the pot and it was just the other 2 players i would see the shove on the end as a bluff, but since u are in the hand it could still mean bluff or could be a really good hand that beats yours.................. no help from me
  11. acecatcher26 acecatcher26 is offline

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    Nov 29th, 2008 (11/29/2008 3:19pm) in reply to pharreal87

    Edit: I misread the hand.
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