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I never fold AK in tournies but um......

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  1. Zefa Zefa is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 1:07am)

    pokerstars Game #15510467605: Tournament #77445083, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2500/5000) - 2008/02/24 - 02:04:03 (ET)
    Table '77445083 87' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: Gourlay (104883 in chips)
    Seat 2: Hadiusa (160902 in chips)
    Seat 3: zabandija (185131 in chips)
    Seat 4: Jawsss (97488 in chips)
    Seat 5: 101hsc (140352 in chips)
    Seat 6: dave798111 (49526 in chips)
    Seat 7: sonopazzo (64192 in chips)
    Seat 8: Pitbull24 (206800 in chips)
    Seat 9: Zefa (306540 in chips)
    Gourlay: posts the ante 500
    Hadiusa: posts the ante 500
    zabandija: posts the ante 500
    Jawsss: posts the ante 500
    101hsc: posts the ante 500
    dave798111: posts the ante 500
    sonopazzo: posts the ante 500
    Pitbull24: posts the ante 500
    Zefa: posts the ante 500
    Pitbull24: posts small blind 2500
    Zefa: posts big blind 5000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Zefa [Kc As]
    Gourlay: folds
    Hadiusa: folds
    zabandija: raises 10000 to 15000
    Jawsss: folds
    101hsc: folds
    dave798111: raises 34026 to 49026 and is all-in
    sonopazzo: folds
    Pitbull24: raises 34026 to 83052

    ??????

    Zabandija could be raising anything, just sat down at a table, dave is a solid layer, pitbull is kind of a donkey and he literally insta minrereraised

    WWYD?

    EDIT: Forgot to add that this is the 50/50k on stars with 27 left and I'm sitting in 2nd place with 300k chips
     
  2. gimmidaloot7 gimmidaloot7 is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 1:11am) in reply to Zefa

    LoL at this hand, i was watching it and wondering wtf you had cause you were thinking so long.....lol at pitbull as well, double up through that joker please...gllll
  3. gimmidaloot7 gimmidaloot7 is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 1:14am) in reply to Zefa

    also this is either a fold or shove spot obv...but i really prefer folding with the action in front of you...i mean you have a raise...a shove and a min reraise....pitbull looks superstrong here, which obv he is just a superdonk, but zab could have a hand 2........fold>shove.
  4. supa_donk supa_donk is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 1:19am) in reply to gimmidaloot7

    being 2nd place in chips i think its an insta fold. if i was below the avg chip stack i would probably gamble though. results?
     
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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 1:24am) in reply to Zefa

    pokerstars Game #15510467605: Tournament #77445083, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2500/5000) - 2008/02/24 - 02:04:03 (ET)
    Table '77445083 87' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: Gourlay (104883 in chips)
    Seat 2: Hadiusa (160902 in chips)
    Seat 3: zabandija (185131 in chips)
    Seat 4: Jawsss (97488 in chips)
    Seat 5: 101hsc (140352 in chips)
    Seat 6: dave798111 (49526 in chips)
    Seat 7: sonopazzo (64192 in chips)
    Seat 8: Pitbull24 (206800 in chips)
    Seat 9: Zefa (306540 in chips)
    Gourlay: posts the ante 500
    Hadiusa: posts the ante 500
    zabandija: posts the ante 500
    Jawsss: posts the ante 500
    101hsc: posts the ante 500
    dave798111: posts the ante 500
    sonopazzo: posts the ante 500
    Pitbull24: posts the ante 500
    Zefa: posts the ante 500
    Pitbull24: posts small blind 2500
    Zefa: posts big blind 5000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Zefa [Kc As]
    Gourlay: folds
    Hadiusa: folds
    zabandija: raises 10000 to 15000
    Jawsss: folds
    101hsc: folds
    dave798111: raises 34026 to 49026 and is all-in
    sonopazzo: folds
    Pitbull24: raises 34026 to 83052
    Zefa: folds
    zabandija: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 2h 3h]
    *** TURN *** [Qs 2h 3h] [3c]
    dave798111 said, "wtffffffffff"
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 2h 3h 3c] [7h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Pitbull24: shows [Qc 5d] (two pair, Queens and Threes)
    dave798111: shows [Jd Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
    Pitbull24 collected 122552 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 122552 | Rake 0
    Board [Qs 2h 3h 3c 7h]
    Seat 1: Gourlay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Hadiusa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: zabandija folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Jawsss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: 101hsc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: dave798111 showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Seat 7: sonopazzo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Pitbull24 (small blind) showed [Qc 5d] and won (122552) with two pair, Queens and Threes
    Seat 9: Zefa (big blind) folded before Flop

    lol @ results but I still stand by my fold
     
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  6. TrippinDeath TrippinDeath is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 1:59am) in reply to Zefa

    I would of folded too. 95% of the time u r racing at best. And how did Mr. Q5 finish???
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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 2:00am) in reply to TrippinDeath

    He's still in lol. He and I are top 2 in chips with 11 left.
     
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  8. TrippinDeath TrippinDeath is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 2:02am) in reply to Zefa

    I gotta see this lol.
  9. ibluffheaps ibluffheaps is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 6:18am) in reply to TrippinDeath

    only took a brief look but it looked like they were in for less than 10 bb and maybe 15bb..
    I dont fold AK for 30bb or under unless it is a special circomstance or i know the players.
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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 6:27am) in reply to gimmidaloot7

    Fold.

    You are up against Ace Something(AJ+), a premium hand from the solid player (KK or QQ) and God knows what from the loose player, without seeing the end results, I would put his on AA or KK?

    I think at least 2-3 of your outs are already gone.
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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 6:41am) in reply to Zefa

    i fold this. you say he insta reraised and he had q5, so im assuming it was a misclick, which you may be able to exploit here, iono. besides this possibiliy, it seems like an easy fold.
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  12. Iroquois Iroquois is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 7:51am) in reply to pokerjamers

    insta fold
  13. Rico Slim Rico Slim is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 7:54am) in reply to Zefa

    Why would someone ever make the call and re-raise with Q5????????????????

    This is the shit that makes me think people can see the results of hands before they play out.
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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 8:01am) in reply to Rico Slim

    Comments like that make me think people actually wear tin foil hats
  15. odiggitydog odiggitydog is offline

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    Feb 24th, 2008 (2/24/2008 8:37am) in reply to Zefa

    since it was a insta min reraise i think it was a misclick by pitbull. when it happens instantly its prolly because the tourney screen popped up as he was about to click on something else in the same spot. happened to me before.

    even if i saw how instant it was during the tourney, i dont think id be able to recognize it as a misclick. the way the action went down, i think id fold here. too much action and the minrereraise (although in hindsight surely a misclick) is too much for AK to stand against a player that can snap off 2/3rds ur stack when ur in great shape to bring a nice stack to the ft.
     
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