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I think my poker career is over, any advice?

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  1. ocon6702 ocon6702 is offline

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    Mar 11th, 2005 (3/11/2005 2:55am)

    Hey Guys- i started playing on pp a few weeks ago, it went well. I played mostly limit and some sng's. I finished in the money in a few sng's and mostly placed around 4 or 5. I used adam's advice on playing the top four hands but i noticed once you got down to the bubble period it was too late and the blinds were too big to do much. You had to risk your stack on the first decent hand and most likely it would get cracked. Also the players in those low limit sng's seem to be less experienced but it still seems difficult to beat them since they can hold any two cards. YOu may have ak and they have a4 and catch there second par. The past few weeks seem like aa roller coaster ride, up and down. If less experienced players are so easy to crack why does it seem so hard. Is it cold cards or what? i dont profess to be the beest but i feel i have skills that are above most of the players. Not great but good. Further more i had the same thing happen with the limit games. those bastards will play any two cards and it seems like a crap shoot.

    My questions are should i quit? Is there a better site than pp to play limit or sng's? Is my game just as bad as the inexperienced player? I lost my bankroll, i may have played higher limits than my 200 bankroll, i did make one cash out so i broke even, but nonetheless i got my ass kicked. Is there any poker training anyone can recommend? Any comments and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    thanks in advance for your replys
  2. miami_jesse miami_jesse is offline

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    Mar 11th, 2005 (3/11/2005 4:44am) in reply to ocon6702

    I hope that you don't mean the ONLY hands you played before the bubble period are AA, KK, AK, and QQ....there's absolutely no way you can have the desired 1.5x buy in stack to push around the short stacks. My guess is that you're playing a bit too tight...play tight, but don't put on a girdle...and if really, really being tight is your thing, party poker is an awful sight for you to play on. I too hate the 200 BB that slap you in the face early on, but you can't find another sight with so many fish.
  3. gambowler gambowler is offline

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    Mar 11th, 2005 (3/11/2005 11:08am) in reply to miami_jesse

    first piece of advice: i suggest trying a site other than party poker (i assume by pp you don't mean paradise). though there are more fish there than anywhere else, you can take bigger swings there. with multiple people seeing the river in limit games, if the cards aren't falling your way, you might lose quite a bit. i make around $200/wk at UB (nothing special, but it's enough for me). in the week it took me to get party's deposit bonus, i made $47 ($247 including the bonus). i don't play much NL, but their NL games are supposedly very easy, so you could try those. i also don't think their SnG's are as good as UB's (even the new UB structure). when you have enough of a bankroll to withstand some hits from the fish, it's probably not a bad place to play.

    which brings me to my second piece of advice. don't play above your bankroll, and don't play with money you can't afford to lose. everyone says this, but not everyone does it. one of the best things i did for my game was create a separate poker bankroll.

    i suggest UB, it's my site of choice right now. you could also try Full tilt and get the deposit bonus. i'm trying to work off the bonus there, but the site just isn't very busy right now.

    hope this helps,
    gambowler
  4. Cal Cal is offline Co-Founder of PocketFives

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    Mar 11th, 2005 (3/11/2005 3:53pm) in reply to ocon6702

    Your SNG strategy would be much more suited for UltimateBet. You can play tighter there because the blinds will allow you to see many more hands.

    As for cash games, stick to PartyPoker, it's easy money. But, listen to gambowler's advice - Do NOT play above your bankroll. When you're playing above your roll, a couple bad sessions in the beginning could eat your stake and you'll have no idea if you could have been long term profitable.

    Play at the .5/1 tables until you've built up a big enough roll to move up. This might take a little discipline, but it sounds like you really don't want to quit yet, so I'd give it another shot.
     
  5. WinningPoker WinningPoker is offline

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    Mar 17th, 2005 (3/17/2005 12:16am) in reply to ocon6702

    IMHO you should quit at least temporarily until you get your head on str8 before even thinkin about ever entering a pot anywhere. I hear this all the time from beginners and as a human being (well sometimes) all of us go through the swings!!! I can not emphasize enough how important it is for financial success in whatever endeavor whether it be poker or any business venture, or another form of gambling, that you are optimistic and in a positive mindset going in. If you are going to think like (no ofense) a loser, than a loser you stall stay!! :) I would give numerous examples on the application of this, but I am sure you are getting the point!! Since your probably a newbie - I have some really good advice for you. Read every book by Sklansky, also read Harrington's book, and of course any book by Doyle Brunson (Super System I & II). Also, join Poker School for at least 6 months (great site for learning in real-time- you'll see why when you play there) and play as much practice sessions at the school to build up that confidence so that you can go through extended drought periods, or the frustrations caused by deviations made my players who play super-agressive (any two) and who happen to hit big hands. You'll notice a common theme at the cash games are to play relatively conservatively until you have a monster and then the real betting begins :) Anyway, I'm playin the nightly rebuy at Paradise as we speak and after the first break am in 18th place with 15,000 chips. Now the real tournament begins, I'm so excited!! :) Even after last nights fiasco of losing the final table heads up match of the OWNS at UB!! Yeah Lucky-7 got me, for that extra $3K but I'll win the next one, despite it being the toughest set of 25-30 players around, including the likes of Wachovia, WestTexasMan, Sheetsworld, beanie, DennyLemieux, jsup, etc. I hate 2nd, but am I sad, HELL YEAHHHHH! ) LOL Dr. WinningPoker :)
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