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I wanna turn my friend into the best poker player in the world

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  1. xxjondxx xxjondxx is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 3:19am)

    ..the only problem he basically just started and probably barely knows what hands beat what.

    What should I start teaching him, Ill prob teach him sngs/mtts.

    Any good beginner books that I should get him to read or what concepts should he know.
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  2. andressoprano andressoprano is offline whaddya think of my game?

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 3:21am) in reply to xxjondxx

    Play poker like the pro's, obv
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  3. pat5star pat5star is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 3:29am) in reply to xxjondxx

    I wanna teach my friend to be straight. Let's make a deal. Whoever figures out how to help their friend succeed with our goal first, we'll tell the other how we did it!
     
  4. Daalen Daalen is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 3:35am) in reply to xxjondxx

    Harrington on Hold 'Em imo
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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 4:51am) in reply to Daalen

    3 years ago when I was playing play money sit n' gos I read the supersystems by Mr. Brunson, that is a reallyyy good book for beginners. Get your friend some volume in some sitngos and slowly explain certain concepts, i.e. things like M, how to play strong hands, how to control the pot size. Once he starts becoming solid get him into anything by David Sklansky.
     
  6. qjuice14 qjuice14 is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 5:07am) in reply to xxjondxx

    As far as books go the HOH series i think would be the best for anyone beginning. They will teach him how to look at the game differently.

    If you want to him to become a good a tournament player i would begin him on sngs for a while. he can experience success early so not to deter him and when he finally makes the move to tournaments and his eventually able to hit final tables he will already have a solid foundation on how to close tournaments.
     
  7. mikeand mikeand is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 5:18am) in reply to xxjondxx

    9 person sngs ftw.
     
  8. jus2awsum jus2awsum is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 5:25am) in reply to mikeand

    agreed. you could teach a monkey how to play sngs. although it takes a certain amount of patience to play sngs. it's not for everyone.
     
  9. odiggitydog odiggitydog is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 6:07am) in reply to xxjondxx

    HOH I, II, and III. have him grind 4.40/180s on stars. cardrunners. then have him read doyles NL section in supersystem
     
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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 7:48am) in reply to xxjondxx

    I think your skill gap is too wide. You will have a hard time relating to his lack of poker sense/knowledge and will become frustrated trying to explain the basics. I have an idea for you. Find someone that is successful at the lower levels but wants to improve and play the bigger games. Have that person tutor your friend while you help him.

    (obv that someone is me)

    ...Deal
  11. Cmac Cmac is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 9:09am) in reply to xxjondxx

    FIrst books then PXF
  12. Cmac Cmac is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 9:10am) in reply to dealace1

    what deal says is very true, id tried teaching two of my friends that JUST started playing. it got to the point that it was too frustrating, b/c I didn't understand their logic and they didn't understand mine. We both think the other is an idiot now. :)
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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 9:26am) in reply to dealace1

    i had this problem--large skill gap--a few months ago trying to teach my dad nlhe tourney strategy. I was extremely impatient with him, especially when he'd ask questions like, "Well, why do you always have to go all-in in that situation? Wouldn't it be better to save a few chips just in case you lose the hand??" I eventually just started treating him like I would a toddler or a special-needs student, and the teaching sessions became much more enjoyable, or at least tolerable for me. He has a positive ROI in micro-tournies, and if he can do it, your friend or anyone else can too.
     
  14. PUTZ549 PUTZ549 is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 10:58am) in reply to JMaster130

    I eventually just started treating him like I would a toddler or a special-needs student

    Damn, that really made me laugh out loud:)
  15. eg23 eg23 is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 11:47am) in reply to Cmac

    Let him learn the basics on his own without trying to help him at all.... get him to read the most basic books etc... once he has a foundation then start working with him.... like everyone else has said it is beyond frustrating trying to teach a blankslate... With that said xxxjondxxx i was on your plb team and shit the bed but i know somethings here and there if you want to holler hahaha
     
  16. NOtoDaY NOtoDaY is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 11:57am) in reply to eg23

    i want my dog to turn into a unicorn... but for some reason that seems unlikely.
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    Apr 11th, 2008 (4/11/2008 1:32pm) in reply to xxjondxx

    Is your goal to be second best?
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