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Interesting hand from 109 freeze, didnt even consider this hand?

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  1. danewfdonk danewfdonk is offline

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    Jul 16th, 2007 (7/16/2007 12:51am)

    Anyways, after anoither horrendous day,m i decide to give the oldlater 109 freeze a try, was doing ok, and was sitiing around average stack with half the field gone, when this hand comes up:

    Seat 1: iamlucky (2975 in chips)
    Seat 2: quixotic78 (5873 in chips)
    Seat 3: BillDance (7065 in chips)
    Seat 4: borodoc (5098 in chips)
    Seat 5: cpt.medic (14710 in chips)
    Seat 6: DanewfDonk (6095 in chips)
    Seat 7: jtpuff (16342 in chips)
    Seat 8: BreakRibs (2595 in chips)
    Seat 9: PDS2004 (6951 in chips)
    iamlucky: posts small blind 100
    quixotic78: posts big blind 200

    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DanewfDonk [Ad Qd]
    BillDance: folds
    borodoc: calls 200
    cpt.medic: calls 200
    DanewfDonk: raises 446 to 646
    jtpuff: folds
    BreakRibs: folds
    PDS2004 is disconnected
    PDS2004 is connected
    PDS2004: folds
    iamlucky: folds
    quixotic78: folds
    borodoc: calls 446
    cpt.medic: calls 446
    *** FLOP *** [Ah As 4h]
    borodoc: checks
    cpt.medic: checks
    DanewfDonk: bets 877
    borodoc: folds
    cpt.medic: calls 877*** TURN *** [Ah As 4h] [Tc]
    cpt.medic: checks
    DanewfDonk: bets 2121
    cpt.medic: raises 2121 to 4242
    DanewfDonk: raises 330 to 4572 and is all-in
    cpt.medic: calls 330
    *** RIVER *** [Ah As 4h Tc] [Jc]

    Okay a few things first, first of all i will post the results of the hand after i get some input on how the hand played etc, critique, callme a donk etc.

    Okay so i had my typical fasirly aggressive image at this point, and i had 0 informationon the villain in the hand, i dont recall ever playiong with him, name doesnt jhump out at me, i have 0 notes on him etc, utg limps, who from what ive seen he willlimp from ep, then fold to a raise, and he hasnt shown me the limp re raise trick yet, and he seems pretty abc, i put him on maybe middle suited connectors or a smallish pair, then utg +1 (villain)limps behind, i have AQdd and i decide i wanna try to limit the number of people in the pot here, and try to get some definition of what im up against here.

    * not really sure if i shoulda raised more here, maybe it is smallish now that ilook at it, but on the other hand i think if i make it 800 - 850- ish it is gonna be very tempting for someone to repop or try to squeeze after early limps, and i dont wanna call off stack with AQ

    To my delight everyone behind me folds, both blinds fold, and the 2 EP limpers decide to call, the flop comes down a beauty AA4 , they both check and i decide i wanna bet out and hopefully get played back at by amiddle pair, which i thought was fairlly likely maybe a hand like 66-99 or maybe a flush draw, so i bet out a smallish 877, utg folds, utg+1 cold calls

    The turn brings an offsuit 10, he checks to me again, and at this point i am like 98% confident i am ahead at this point, i decide if hes drawing its time to pay and i bet 2100ish, he min raises me here,,

    My question to the com,munity is do any of you fold in this spot, what do you put him on here?? the only hand i really thought he can ahve that beats me is 44 ?? maybe im wrong for my line pls, help me out thanks again

    Danewfdonk
     
  2. ChuckSty ChuckSty is offline

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    Jul 16th, 2007 (7/16/2007 1:10am) in reply to danewfdonk

    i think you need to raise more preflop. As is i think you are just going to build a pot. I mean you made a 3.5x raise after two limpers plus the 300 already in the pot and then i am guessing antes unless those aren't until the next level. So they are going to be getting a good price to call. So i think if guy folded to raise before he could easily be limoping ac4c here. anyway i'd raise to at least 850 after the limpers if i was going to raise, maybe even up to 1200 just because i want to play flop hu. the only time i make a smaller raise is if one guy limps and he's a weak player and i want to try and isolate cheaply. just my thoughts
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  3. danewfdonk danewfdonk is offline

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    Jul 16th, 2007 (7/16/2007 1:20am) in reply to danewfdonk

    well i posted in my original post that maybe my raise was small, but i am not a big fan of preflop poker, i am just trying to take the lead in the hand, and limit it to less then 5 or 6 ppl, i agree maybe i rase more, but like i explained if i mike it 875 to go, after the blinds, antes, plus 2 limpers, and my raise, any1 thats good, will be thinking this is a reasl interesting spot to squeeze with allk the dead money in there, and i dont wanna call of my stack with aq high yet, we can debate the raise amount, and it is probly low, but as is, what do u put the guy on?? and yes the guy that limped utg, had shown the tendency to limp fold but the pot was played vs villain utg +1
     
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  4. ChuckSty ChuckSty is offline

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    Jul 16th, 2007 (7/16/2007 1:34am) in reply to danewfdonk

    not sure he could have the fours or he could have khqh, shit he could just think you don't have the ace, or any of the other boats i guess. i hate getting raised right<span><span> t</span></span>here on th<span>e</span> turn but i don't think you can fold to his stack and aren't drawing dead.
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  5. Cliffy1013 Cliffy1013 is offline

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    Jul 16th, 2007 (7/16/2007 1:33pm) in reply to danewfdonk

    You played the hand as well as you possibly could given the situation. You got the chips in the middle!! Given the way the hand was played out, the only possible hand I would be remotely afraid of is 44. His play only makes sense if he was holding 44. Try to limp and call a small raise after another person called the raise. Theres no way you can possibly get off the hand holding AQ, even if you put him on 44 it'd still be hard or impossible to fold. With this said, I'm not at the skill level to play $109 MTTs yet.
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