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interesting situation w/ low pair

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  1. Damage1 Damage1 is offline

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    Nov 19th, 2006 (11/19/2006 11:39am)

    what would you guys do with 22 in this situation, getting 2.5/1 on the call, from a $10 180er on stars about 55 left

    pokerstars Game #7088016948: Tournament #36213609, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/11/19 - 12:34:49 (ET)
    Table '36213609 5' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: pandaman1 (4362 in chips)
    Seat 2: Damage1 (3645 in chips)
    Seat 3: lalayaya (7365 in chips)
    Seat 4: queen_v1 (1620 in chips)
    Seat 5: thegrinder44 (2785 in chips)
    Seat 7: skhirsch (3060 in chips)
    Seat 8: MR. LTA (10970 in chips)
    Seat 9: RVHM (760 in chips)
    thegrinder44: posts small blind 100
    skhirsch: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Damage1 [2h 2c]
    MR. LTA: folds
    RVHM: folds
    pandaman1: folds
    Damage1: raises 400 to 600
    lalayaya: folds
    queen_v1: raises 1020 to 1620 and is all-in
    thegrinder44: folds
    skhirsch: folds
    Damage1: ???
  2. ClaYPooL ClaYPooL is offline

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    Nov 19th, 2006 (11/19/2006 12:14pm) in reply to Damage1

    You're getting the right price to call if he has two big cards which is his most probable holding. Even if you lose you still have 2000 chips left with blinds at 100-200 so I'd probably lean towards a call.
  3. Gerr Gerr is offline

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    Nov 19th, 2006 (11/19/2006 7:53pm) in reply to ClaYPooL

    It really depends on how they played throughout the tournament. If that person is really tight, then probably has an OP. At best you're at a cointoss, but if you have a read and are confident he/she has overcards, you need to call. Otherwise, 1000 chips is a lot compared to your stack. But I'm a donk anyway so nevermind my advice.
  4. nothingspecial nothingspecial is offline

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    Nov 20th, 2006 (11/20/2006 2:53am) in reply to Damage1

    i would just limp and try to see the flop as cheap as possible. if you limp and queen goes all in behind you i would fold. i wouldnt make the call here even after the raise. with 22 your a coinflip at best. any pocket pair is killing you. there is just too many things going against you for 1/3 of your stack. easy fold IMO.
  5. trouble trouble is offline

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    Nov 20th, 2006 (11/20/2006 11:19am) in reply to Damage1

    With 55 people left and what I would imagine is a below avg. stack, you're going to have to capitalize on situations where you can get chips in order to come in the top 3. Without knowing how queen_v1 has been playing (for instance, has she folded 45 straight hands and is waiting for AA/KK? OR is she a solid player who understands with an M<6 she's got a lot of work to do and is looking for even marginal spots to double up?).

    Getting 2.5:1 makes this a trivially easy call IMO. You're obviously in trouble if she has an overpair, but you'll still win roughly one out of five times in the worse case scenario. Given that the much more likely situation is that your close to 50/50 against overcards, the price is right.

    Call and win, you've got a stack big enough to steal/resteal from medium stacks as you approach the money.

    Call and lose, you're in push/fold mode with a chance.
  6. Damage1 Damage1 is offline

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    Nov 20th, 2006 (11/20/2006 2:54pm) in reply to trouble

    i posted this hand right after it happened because it seems rather interesting, knowing this would give me a pretty big stack, i called getting 2.5/1, and with my delight i was ahead, held, and went on to win the whole tourney (brag post obv) here is the rest of the hand

    Damage1: calls 1020
    *** FLOP *** [Kc 9h 9c]
    *** TURN *** [Kc 9h 9c] [6s]
    *** RIVER *** [Kc 9h 9c 6s] [Qd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Damage1: shows [2h 2c] (two pair, Nines and Deuces)
    queen_v1: shows [Tc Ah] (a pair of Nines)
    Damage1 collected 3540 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 3540 | Rake 0
    Board [Kc 9h 9c 6s Qd]
    Seat 1: pandaman1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Damage1 showed [2h 2c] and won (3540) with two pair, Nines and Deuces
    Seat 3: lalayaya folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: queen_v1 (button) showed [Tc Ah] and lost with a pair of Nines
    Seat 5: thegrinder44 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: skhirsch (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: MR. LTA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: RVHM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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